01-14 Life Log: Board Games, Work Projects, and Personal Moments 2026-01-14T18:29:41Z # — Life Log ## Title Board Games, Work Projects, and Cozy Nights In ## Time Context This log covers several days, often in the evening or during work hours. ## Life Log Narrative This was a period filled with focused work, cozy nights, and deep dives into complex board games. You spent several evenings engrossed in a new, space-themed board game with Noel and friends, navigating intricate rules about space exploration, discovering alien "Anomalies," and vying for dominance in the solar system. The sessions were a mix of strategic planning, friendly competition, and moments of shared discovery and laughter. The game nights often extended late, ending with everyone packing up the countless pieces and winding down over a shared meal, like a cheesy beef and chicken dish. In between these gaming sessions, you were intensely focused on work. A significant amount of your time was spent collaborating on a detailed "playbook" document, refining workflows, and discussing the integration of new AI tools for analyzing user feedback and social media trends. You had exciting conversations about using video ethnography from platforms like TikTok for R&D insights and worked through the technicalities of project proposals and vendor platforms. The evenings were also filled with quieter, more personal moments. You shared nostalgic memories with Noel and friends, reminiscing about everything from old A&W drive-ins to a whirlwind trip to Singapore for your sister-in-law's graduation. You also dove deep into discussions about other shared passions, like the video game *Baldur's Gate 3*, trading stories about quests and strategies late into the night. It was a time marked by a comfortable balance of professional dedication and personal connection, weaving together intense strategic thinking with easygoing companionship. ## Places Visited - Venus (in-game) - Uranus (in-game) - Neptune (in-game) - Mercury (in-game) - Earth (in-game) - Jupiter (in-game) - Mars (in-game) - Asteroids (in-game) - Universal Studios (mentioned, Singapore) - Sentosa (mentioned, Singapore) - A&W (mentioned) - Victoria (mentioned in a story about a board game café) ## Activities - Playing complex board games (*SETI*, *Bosque*, *Photosynthesis*) - Strategizing and learning game rules - Socializing with friends - Eating dinner and dessert (ice cream sandwiches, cookies) - Working and attending meetings - Collaborating on a work "playbook" - Discussing video games (*Baldur's Gate 3*, *Divinity: Original Sin 2*) - Reminiscing and sharing stories ## Key Moments - The collective excitement when you and Noel discovered the "Anomalies" in the space game, adding a major new element. - The dramatic moment you narrated "The greatest day in human history" as you made a "first contact" move in the game. - Realizing a game took four hours to play, with an hour and a half just for learning the rules. - A moment of gratitude for your unique and treasured relationship with your sister-in-law, Miko, and recalling flying to Singapore for her preschool graduation. - Sharing a nostalgic memory of old A&W drive-ins with roller-skating servers. - A funny and revealing moment about your different reactions to gory scenes in shows, with Noel wanting to rewind them while you found them gross. - Reflecting on turning 40 and feeling happy and content with where you are in life. - Expressing excitement about new AI-driven methods at work for analyzing video content from social media. - A cute, playful moment where you and Noel called each other "yum." ## Conversation Topics - The rules, strategy, and progress of a complex space-themed board game. - Comparing the game to *Terraforming Mars*. - An extremely detailed breakdown of quests, characters, and strategies in the game *Baldur's Gate 3*. - D&D, other RPGs, and gaming hardware (Switch, Steam Deck). - Work projects, including a "playbook," user engagement dashboards, and AI capabilities. - The pros and cons of Apple products and the slow demise of your old iMac. - The movie *Contact* and its differences from the book. - Fashion quirks like "socks and Crocs." - The science of aging, antioxidants, and free radicals. - The challenges of collecting and analyzing consumer feedback at work. ## People - **Noel:** Your partner, who you played games with, discussed work, and shared many moments. - **Nico:** A friend who joined for the game nights. - **Kuya:** Mentioned during game scoring. - **Miko:** Your sister-in-law, with whom you have a special bond. - **Kat:** A friend who enjoys cheese ice cream and owns a MacBook Pro. - **Pierre, Simon, David, Sandra, Tobita:** Work colleagues involved in various projects. - **Amy (Emi):** A friend who breeds reptiles and had new baby blue-tongued lizards. ## Follow-Ups - You mentioned wanting to play the new space game again. - Consider logging your game's playtime on BoardGameGeek (BGG). - You need to remember to discard down to four cards when passing a turn in the game. - Plan the next board game night to play *King of Tokyo*. - Order more vanilla ice cream for floats and apple pie. - Decide whether to play *Divinity: Original Sin 2* or continue with *Cyberpunk*. - Follow up on various work items, including vendor templates and project proposals. --- ## Audio moments worth keeping 1. **[0:36–0:43] — Greatest Day in Human History** Why: You adopted a dramatic, sci-fi narrator voice to announce your in-game action, which is a charming and funny moment. 2. **[01:15–01:58] — Flying for Miko's graduation** Why: This is a sweet story about your dedication, recounting how you flew from Australia to Singapore, exhausted from work, just to attend her preschool graduation. 3. **[0:18–0:35] — A gratitude list** Why: This is a lovely, heartfelt moment where you list several things you're grateful for, including Noel, friends, and learning a new game. 4. **[07:08–08:14] — Remembering A&W** Why: This is a wonderfully nostalgic and detailed memory of old A&W drive-ins, with roller-skating servers and food trays that hooked onto car windows. 5. **[09:56–10:14] — Rewind the Gory Part** Why: A funny and revealing moment about the different ways you and Noel react to intense scenes in shows, highlighting your dynamic. 6. **[00:27:06 - 00:27:12] — We are all yum** Why: A silly, sweet, and affectionate exchange that's a perfect snapshot of your playful relationship with Noel. 7. **[00:02:40 - 00:02:59] — Excitement About Deconstructing TikTok Videos** Why: This clip captures your genuine professional excitement and forward-thinking vision for using new data sources, like TikTok videos, for R&D. 00:00:00 The other side can be on the other side. I noticed our taxi driver the other day had like two armbands here. And one of them he was like sort of stroking. Stroking? Like it was some sort of gesture. He was electronic. Maybe it's just a soothing thing. He has Touring's app to watch us. So if I pass, what happens? Then you draw another card. I choose from less cards. That's all I do. That's it. That's it. It doesn't happen. They're all better. When you visit something... 00:00:31 My narrator. Um, then you... What does that mean? Then you... This one finishes... I haven't even launched a probe and it's 20% of the game done. Why? How do you say it's done? 00:01:05 these are better if you know the same it only if it matches with your goals unfortunately i don't have goals if you use it if you move within the same room it's not the same room moving oh you just move around i don't know if it's a ring or if it's that's the only reason solar system panel. 00:01:35 it's the only ring in this game solar system panel no that's the only that's only is this to this a ring no a ring is circular so you move this way where are these things mostly, All right. 00:02:07 I landed, so this must be here now. It's me. Oh, that's me. Sorry. That's okay. Where's me? Oh, I've already landed. This gives me this. Oh, this is only once. By. Okay. I'll pass this. You pass, but he passes to you the cards. 00:02:38 Oh. The only one who didn't scan this. Oh, no. See you. By. 00:03:09 And I'm the only one who didn't launch because I can't afford it. So no set player is completed yet. It has to finish all of the data, replace the last data token. Okay. Thank you. 00:03:39 And I'll pass too. And then at the end of the round, how many cards do we get again? Up to four. No. Oh, discard down to four. According to your income. Oh, your income. End of the round, income. Pass starting player. Do we draw cards at the beginning? 00:04:12 No, end of this turn. Only from, okay. Interesting. Yeah, discard, I guess. Okay. Okay, income time. Right, one turn done. One round done. And does the first player token move? Okay. Like that. And what do you got for income? I gain. Everyone gets income first, then pass the starting player, 00:04:45 then move the rotation reminder token onto the next stack. Oh, okay. I gain four credits, two energy, one card. 3 credits, 2 energy, card row, and if I drew it, it gets immediately refreshed. 00:05:19 Oh, okay, so then we still have to do that part in turn order. How come this one doesn't have a number, which means 1, I guess? Yeah. They're done with their income? And then 3 energy. What can we do with 5 rounds? I'm wondering. And then 2 cards. That icon with this card question mark means it doesn't have a number. 00:05:51 It actually means 1 card. right and your income cards they don't if they have missions on them they just don't count yeah lower it so this one means you want your stuff i get a signal any sector i'll get it i got stuff and if you get three tech what does this mean right okay when i get three texts yeah they. 00:06:24 bet that that's the yeah this text scanning text these ones so if you're a scanner you just get it it's okay for it's easy for you next one is mark uh life do that for a species for which you have already marked mark a blue signs of life for a species that have already had it, Have at least 8 popularity to get 3 points and 1 card. This is just sight of this point. 00:06:57 Is it an end and 1 or? Submission. Okay. So once you have 8 popularity, you just have to, means you won't research at 6. You'll research. Yeah. The turn after you use this card. Yeah. That's, I don't know. I'll just get 1 at random. Or you, you spend 3 coins and you get 1, oh, 1 data and 1, and 1? Oh! You spend 3, you get, you get 1 and 1 scan. Okay. This is a scan. 00:07:28 This is scanning tech. You get 2 cards. Okay, I'm done with my income. Okay. I have free money. Two bills. One card. A little bit more money. It's empty. Okay. don't you get two cards you get two cards yeah yeah i know where's the other things. 00:07:58 this one please move to the solar system one card why who moves it if i deploy now i'm surrounded by astronauts oh solo system move this one this one oh move move thing and launch for free no it's not free because it's a baby yeah then have a probe the fact launch oh launch tech it's launch tech have a probe at least five spaces from earth that should be very far. 00:08:38 three points in one i just need to get my cards. I'll get this one then refill oh does it refill wait wait does it refill before I. 00:09:09 decide again because I get that I have to choose another card but I say with the other thing so this is no longer in space I'm asking oh I thought you're. 00:09:41 looking not so we were replenish for three three signs of life you gain one sign of life okay and you gain one of each when you cast it for two credits, One card, one data, and one popularity. It's cheap, no? That's if you land on three planets. That's so hard. That's signs of life. That's basically the only way to get there. How to get three? 00:10:12 Land on three planets. Not all people can land on one. I'm just flexing. Yeah. Mystery one. I guess besides, I'll just get from the top. Just like this. Are you done with the income? Income and then what? Income, starting play to the left, rotation reminder token. 00:10:43 Okay, done. So, this thing, and then, where is the. 00:11:53 where is the, where is the, where is the, there's just going to be again a card what card do i want two signs of life this looks like first of all we all don't get it that they will stay there forever, and then two points and one credit and since i got that uh tech two popularity again two popularity. 00:12:27 for my mission that's my first action what did i get. done so this one this is this one that is blue yellow just gives why i'll just come and then. 00:13:33 so expensive one credit and two energy scan from earth and then my second scan, would be from there it's also red. I can discard the red card. I gain something two points two points. 00:14:09 for not doing and then one popularity for not doing and then I will have a trajectory correction for one point and then I use low well you can move and I'll move in one ring take my three victory points and one popularity point nice and reaction I will spend an energy to move yeah. 00:14:55 Yeah. oh and then it's another action to actually orbit that or with the line okay. i'll play this card choose one of my probes that one if it's on an asteroid gain two um, data so i guess from that pile right and then if and then one data for every adjacent asteroid so one oh that's perfect for this nice setup so i'm like oh do that first. 00:15:32 i do not want to do that do i yeah what is that income thing it seems like i can tuck something in now but it seems like not such a benefit well it it is if you wanted to do it anyway. uh tuck a card from your hand for income take the depicted resource immediately that's nice. Do I want to do that? I didn't do that. 00:16:02 I did not do that. Well, do those things. You're supposed to. Now, take the resource immediately. I waited for the income. What did I do? Get it now. Which? This one. Time. Last term time. Which one did you get? You would have tucked it, right? So, it would be... I tucked in two things. Ah, okay. Why do you have another one that I tucked? To me. Oh, is it this one? No. Well, you didn't do that? No, not me. No, tucking in. The income thing. Oh. The income tells you to get the resource. 00:16:33 Okay. Next one. I'm still deciding if I'm going to do it. Okay, I'll tuck. I'll tuck something in. Let's take the resource that we tucked in. Yeah, I think so too. Just take it now. Mine was a card, so I'll just take the card. Mine's also a card so I'm gonna get this one. Or do I want one of those? 00:17:04 No, no, those are not nice. So, minus an energy. Uh, credit. What is that card? Then... Then where do I want to go? End at Uranus. Five points. 00:17:39 Lander, Orbiter, Neptune, and Uranus. I will. How do you do a mission? it's still playing a car no oh yeah it is still playing a card okay okay then i'm done i will. 00:18:10 scan one credit to energy what's the next to rotate blue inside outside oh yeah so i'll get red. where else do i want to assert my dominant. 00:18:51 where has dominance not been asserted. I'll discard this thing, so I will mark a blue area, this is blue, I will get this, so it's a dominance here, then I will place here, get two points, then I will place here, to get one credit, and then as a free action, from when I, because of my upgrade, I pay one energy to launch a probe, yay, I can finally launch, and I gain one movement, 00:19:59 boop, and I gain one movement, And then, and I am done. No, what am I supposed to do? 00:20:42 Oh, now I can't pay this thing. Oh no, that's not what you pay. This one and this one can be spent to make more income, more cards. Yeah, there's no planet nearby. 00:21:16 Hmm, the fly first. I guess I'll play this instead. Okay, for three credits. What's PIXL? If there was ever life on Mars, the PIXL spectrometer, on the Perseverance rover could discover it. It will study the chemical composition of samples that the rover collects. 00:21:46 PIXL. Okay, so I get to rotate the thing once. So I'll rotate it here. Nothing happened to anyone. And then I get a deck of blue. oh i just want some random it just gives a polarity the tech just gives a polarity or a card. 00:22:17 oh let's get popularity so two points for not white flea and one popularity for me please so now i can put data in four points and popularity then gain one point for each popularity that you have and i'm at three so plus three points not quite for you alien thank you alien does nothing he says. 00:22:54 what that means yeah okay it says land here is two data these victory points in one. If you're the first one, yes, then you get the two data points. Hey, three, let's land. How do you land? Three energy. Two data. 00:23:33 Uh, eight points. And where do I mark the... Eight points? Yeah. And then everyone else who lands here also. Here or here. Mark one of the yellow. Ah, I'm so far. I'm so far. Oh, I get it. And you get five points in one popularity from here. Sure. Can you move him, Nana? Five points. Twenty-five. And one popularity, please. 00:24:04 Oh, look at that. So high. One. One popularity. Ooh, ooh, ooh. Milestone, right? hmm you get to put on one of those gold things are you going to go for tech because it's the biggest points there's no there's no disadvantage to doing it so you might as well pick something, or take something you think someone else would want one of those you have how many of the text. 00:24:41 okay i will play this card and it is a quest thingy wait yeah and then i'll i'll move my probe so then i go up one there and i put a marker here so then i gain another popularity ah what's it. 00:25:12 renown influence no oh neither publicity i said popularity and then what else was i gonna do. oh yeah i'm going to i'm going to discard this for uh for one data please and can i have a data please and i'll place it here uh not yet. 00:25:46 okay go i'm done. when you get the text then you get the benefit on the tile and the benefit on the space below. 00:26:19 the town i will play a card spaces below are also the ones that are there you don't, became the benefit not the one below right away no but the one below this is this is this is the tech that you will get this tells you which one you will get but this is the only benefit you get for that one for the first time i use the clean space initiative discard all three cards from the card row for the free action corner yeah wow which means data popularity and. 00:26:49 so data popularity. and move and influence and i covered that so i will immediately tuck the card. Tuck the card and I immediately gain the bonus. Then I discard this. My first action. 00:27:30 Discard it for what? I played it. Three actions. So this one is one move. So it launches one move for each card with a move three action corner effect. You show from your hand. They just show. This one gives you two popularity. Have a probe on asteroids adjacent to earth. How specific. It gives you five points in. 00:28:00 one card. It gives you three scans. All sectors will be scanned for one. Don't gain any data from them. It's just area control. But it's also spread out. Interesting. Spread out? I'm just a back-end influencer being... If you move into a space with a publicity icon, gain one publicity. 00:28:35 Just move into, so it doesn't say there's a limit. I can go back and forth to gain publicity. Stunts. See if there's something written here so I can take my time. I just checked. For one credit, Planet Hunters. 00:29:07 I gain... What is that? What does that mean? I gain a card. Isn't gaining a card one of these or one of those? When we were drawing cards before, it was you could choose. Right. I want the red one then. Yeah. And you refill it instantly. Thank you. Ooh, scan for two. For two credits, one popularity and one scan. 00:29:38 Okay. Then discard up to three cards for signals from your hand. So I'll discard all three cards for three red over there to finish it. This one. I exist there. Don't go around. Got three. Where's my keys? Up. No. Man, I killed the microphone. I think I was one off. That was fast. Planet quake. Guess what's happened? 00:30:09 Yeah. I exist. It just so happens my other cards are red, so might as well. Okay, I have completed the sector. When you finish your main action, resolve all of the sectors that have been completed in any order you choose. The player with the most markers in the data slot wins the sector. That player places a marker on the space beside the nearby star and gets the reward. You get bacteria. I get bacteria? Oh, you get to put there and get five points, one influence. The other one's three points, one influence. 00:30:44 Okay. Five points for not white, and one influence for not white. Thank you. And then, we resolve this first, and then we resolve this team. Your gold team. And then, every person involved gets one influence. Each player contributed with at least one marker gets one publicity, including the winners. So, you and me, you and I get publicity. Then you go back. He moved you now. 00:31:14 Okay, thank you. And then, done. That's it. I'm there, what? Permanently? What happens next? Resetting the sector. After determining the winner, determine who got second using the same tiebreaker. The second place player leaves a marker on the first space. Return all other markers from the data slot to the player. Refill. Refill with data. Players will thus be able to mark signals and get data from the sector again. 00:31:46 Winners always leave a marker because... Wait, is this a slot? It's just infinite. So this means the next one... There's a circle here. Where's the circle? This one has a circle. Where did you put the win? Somehow. So I don't? Yeah, you don't. Sad. I don't get the circle. Everyone gets bacteria there. Not bacteria, molecules. 00:32:18 Molecules. Exactly. And then, something else I need to do. There's a tiny bit of paper there. Every time Noel sighs, it removes its things. You have two techs. Two techs. One. Okay, so let's go to two techs. 00:32:49 Okay. Let's go to two techs. And then, done. I will do my tech research. So, subtract. Finally, yeah. Get to this tech. Tech six from me, for my popularity. And then, we move. the solar system oh we move the solar system the inner one and then some blue thing but i don't. 00:33:24 quite understand the difference between all these guys this is the credit energy card to influence, like this you get to put the data at the bottom i should have done that okay i'll take it sure for two victory points i don't know what that means two victory points and one influence one energy and i get one energy not instantly not instantly it's the other side oh yeah that's. 00:33:58 the one he did already okay okay oh and then when i put data on this thing and it just goes anywhere like oh you can research soon. and get uh another virus wow he's definitely going traces oh no it's the only one researching i'm going to my my turn your turn also and well not also analyze. i've never done it remove all and then mark mark you get to put your token there oh yeah that's. 00:34:34 why i wanted to do it you baby can you put it there i got five finally and one and one popular, popular okay what do we do don't we find an alien. reveal to us the alien. don't know what it means. 00:35:06 it's drain dweller, mcgree brother, Yeah, now called Anomalies. Anomalies. Which one is it? It's there. It's here. Okay, so what do we do? Read the rule sheet for that species. Okay. Here we go. Oh there's there's text. You want to read the text? Three enormous highly reflective. 00:35:38 objects have been discovered in their solar system. These anomalies distort space-time around them, implying a connection to distant observers. Their discovery has sparked protests, worship, and a newfound sense of global unity. We are watching them. Is someone watching back? When this species is discovered, shuffle its deck and deal cards to players who mark the three discovery spaces. Everyone but you. Everyone but you. 00:36:12 Each player gets one card per marker. Keep the deck near the anomalies board. Turn the top card face up and place it beside the deck. They're more powerful than normal cards. What does it say? Scanning any sector, then gain one point for each signal you have in sectors with anomalies. What? Anomalies are going to appear everywhere. 00:36:47 That's so anomalous. Spaces with this icon, the alien icon, let you draw an anomalous card. You may draw from the top of the deck or take the face up card and replace it with the top card from the deck. These cards can be tucked for income or discarded for the free action effect. They count towards your handling. Anomalies. Place the three anomaly tokens, where? Pop, ping, pong. Three of those. 00:37:17 Random side up on these spaces in the solar system's outermost ring. One in the sector with Earth. Of course it's watching Earth. Outermost ring. And one outermost sector. Here? Does it go here? Is this a sector or a? Outermost. Here, sector is this one, right? One in the sector with Earth and the outermost ring. The outermost ring, okay. Then? Does it matter what color? 00:37:49 I wasn't looking. One three sectors counterclockwise from Earth. Outermost ring. And one three sectors clockwise from Earth. Then what? Make sure it doesn't cover planets. triggering anomalies whenever the solar system rotates check to see if earth is now in the same sector as an anomaly if so resolve the anomaly immediately that's the anomaly no no don't just. 00:38:24 flip over the thing in each anomaly corresponds to either of the three traces of life check the anomaly species board for the column that matches the triggered anomaly the player who has marked the highest spaces in the given column gains the reward depicted mark highest here gain reward depicted that's a space you can visit now I think every time you do that species you can there are. 00:38:58 more slots we thought it was just the one right now you can go to those ones and you get that benefit, But how exactly do you get into one of those rings? The same way that we got into these ones. Find traces of life. Find the traces. So we find new traces? Yes. Can you fuse? We start at the bottom, I guess. Can you do the... Yeah. And whoever struck the highest gets whichever place Earth spins to. What's a spinning? 00:39:29 When it spins and Earth is now facing this anomaly, its reward is one card of your choice. For the yellow one. For the yellow. So you look at yellow track. Who's the highest? Which means who's the last person to put. So whenever the solar system rotates, we check if the anomaly is triggered. Okay. The top space gets only two points, but it's always available. If the red anomaly were to trigger... 00:40:01 Ah, this is an example. The green player would receive the reward. This one, and that's the one written on the anomaly. Okay, so how do we get these cards? When you go there. Or an alien card, I think. You either draw from the top of the deck or the face up front. Spaces with an alien face. Do we put from the bottom up? Yeah. Okay. Interesting. 00:40:33 Who did that? Tushka. Bonus actions? Oh, that's... Dita. Done. Yay, I get to put something. I get to be first? To put something, actually. I will put a rover. So I spend three energy. And I put a rover. You land on? Venus. 00:41:04 I gain 5 points. I gain 2 data. Because I covered 2 data, I'm the first one to put. I gain 5 points. And then a yellow trace. So now I can put here. Yellow trace, put there, I gain 4 points. And 1 card. And 1 card of my child. So it's this one. Scanning any sector, then gain 1 point for each signal you have in sectors with anomalies. 00:41:37 I'll draw. And then, free action. Free action. I place data, blah. It's not a mission I completed. I have a card? Wait, I should read. Yay, now all of us have a card. I'm the only one that didn't get a card. when i want to top this reaction okay i'm done. 00:42:23 okay so as a free action i'll move my data which i forgot to do a while ago, to get two points on not white and two popularity for not white thank you. pass all right how do i talk you know i can put the last one for free make this into an income. 00:43:05 then i pass this card down to four rotate the solar system if you're first to pass i move the orange orange we covered up the holes and then choose one card from the stack of end round cards okay and then i'm done okay here turn over interesting after one day to do new physics. 00:43:52 and i guess get one of the alien bits alien traces. Rocks, molecules, earth bugs, molecules, 3 points please. Sorry, what do you want? 00:44:24 No, 3 victory points. Alien. Alien! No, no, it doesn't do anything. This is a neutral milestone. No, but there's something with the aliens. Separate icon, it's a fuzzy icon. Yeah, a different thing. The alien thing happens when Earth points to this alien sector, right? Yeah. Okay. I wonder what that is then. Hold on. Neutral milestone for less than 4 players. The only rule will be ignored. 00:44:56 Less than 4 players, whenever we get here, those 2. uh automatically fill up those so it helps to progress okay sorry the new tech was like i could get any tech i wanted and if i did rocks again then i would end up on this track right or the other one or or on one of these or on any either one of these it has to be this one it's red yellow blue that's color also so you'll have to put here or there so 450 points in the card. 00:45:32 did you put there did you raise his influence for that for every new research didn't get your bugs did you you're raising influence or he's not blessed one more one more and the card is either face up one or the one. 00:46:11 The greatest day in human history. After confirming the extraterrestrial origin of the anomalies, we are attempting first contact. Okay, I'm going to make that dude an orbiter. To Venus. We gain 5 points. Orbiter, not lander. 9 points. 00:46:43 9 points in income. And I get to talk if I want to. Then what? Then where? Maybe what does this mean? Right here? Mercury, what are you doing? 00:47:13 That's it for now. Yippee. I will scan. Not scan. Whatever this is. Collect data points. Plot a graph. Analyze my data. Plot a graph. Oh no. I can't do that. Oh no. Because I need to spend energy. To analyze. 00:47:45 No worries. I will just conduct research. Rotate. Earth about to face one soon. I will get... Which color? Yellow. That's you. You will get a card. This one. Two points. 00:48:17 One, two. I will upgrade this, and I'll get one energy. I can now launch that. So this lets me launch one right now. Launch at Earth. Since I got that, I will gain that. Gain two influence again. I have completed my quest. What happens if I complete a quest? 00:48:48 I'll just leave it like that. Because that one checks for completed quests. I think I read that one has to have all circles completed. So I'll leave that there. And then I made it to 25. So what do I want? I want to put... 00:49:25 And then minor action, done. 00:50:02 I pass. No. You pass? Why don't you pass? You have eight points. That was last time. I think it's delayed. I managed to combo with my sustain. 00:50:39 Here. Call at 9, so we'll have data between 8 and 8. Scanning. I'm over here. So I cannot analyze data unless I kill this. And you need energy. 00:51:09 And then I have energy. I mean for next round. Where did you get the green? The yellow trees are landing. We need to launch again soon. We need two credits to launch. 00:51:45 Is that right? Can I take one of these cards? For the scan? Because? Uh... The scan is always to... To... No, you don't... Ah, you discard. For this one? For this ability? Yeah, that one you discard. Oh, discard when you're... Okay, I got it. And it has to be the same color. It's kind of blue sector. So, then I'll discard the blue. You can't. You don't discard from your hand. What are you using? Okay, this is my hand. This is the card I use. 00:52:17 Use to scan in any sector. Paid one for that. Scan. And you put how many? uh i scanned one here oh no it's not a scan action it's a it's a signal action if you just mark a signal you swap one because it's not the pink icon you don't do both of these two uh it's just one mark a signal take a data token from a sector and put your marker in its place. 00:52:47 ah but it's not a scan yeah what does this mean you have three scanning texts yeah you get one data oh it's not get one data oh i just as soon as i get three scanning checks here then i get one extra data yeah cool then okay i'm gonna do i'm gonna research if you have those scanning texts you don't have to get it it's not triggered when you get it it's true when you have it. 00:53:24 for me i already have one if i had that card it's take i need to take the remaining three versus half three is i only need three what's the difference do i want to take enough you haven't explained it to me if i have all four all of my scans are filled i cannot take it therefore i cannot get i cannot fulfill the mission if it's get so which is good what says get this if it's. 00:54:01 for receiving for missions it's not get um upgrade it's to have the upgrade it's almost always the same thing except for missions because i just said if there's all four you can't get any more and that means you can't use that mission then it's useless can i get that third one the third pink purple, Five points? Yeah. Five points. You can now scan three times? Twenty four. 00:54:32 You understand the difference? Huh? How much is this one? This one, right? Yeah, that's important. Nothing. See what? With the scan action, you can now scan three times, right? From Earth, from this row, and from your hand. I have cards, so maybe. Then what? Now what? Okay, so I did that. Researchy, research, research. 00:55:03 And then... Oh, God. Cannot do that. Okay, that's it for now. Nicole. 00:55:34 i'll spend one energy to analyze data and i get a blue area i'll put here two points and the card. what does this mean you put here every time you get an upgrade that's not what it means. 00:56:08 because you put a token here that's not how mine works, this one has an arrow so it's like maybe when you put here you gain one energy and any, Any tech? It's a mission. It's a mission? So you need three techs? Whenever you gain. 00:56:40 I'm starting to believe that it's whenever you gain and you have. So that kind of mission. It really just won't be possible. Will you explain it to them now? When you say statements, I got to have to explain. Are you done with your turn? No. Okay. Take your turn now. I thought you would know immediately. Yeah. It's when you take a science tech, you gain those listed benefits. 00:57:13 Can I see the card? Can't really see. It's the same as mine, except stronger. It's an arrow. It's a standard mission. Trigger mission. Could serve people. What are the benefits? I don't know. At one energy one card and three victory points. So every time you research stuff, right? When you get a tech when you get a check any check then first, yeah, then you can use one one of those Because you have to do three different actions you might be built for one action. 00:57:60 Oops. You. 00:58:30 From what? Alloy? Subfactions? Draw all three cards from the card row for one euro. Oh, wow. But it's expensive too. Mimir. Draw three cards, that's nice. They're very useful. Then use a card that- discard cards until blank. Blank blank blank. 00:59:07 I think I might want to actually discard this because it gives me one point and one data for free. I'm going to discard it now. 00:59:50 I forgot to mark my quest my mission completed because I'm I have an orbiter at Venus so I get four victory points oh and then was I doing. 01:00:33 It seems like I didn't rotate this. Why would you rotate? I don't want to actually but I feel like... Why would you rotate? Because last turn I researched tech. I got this. Remember when you said I can now scan three signals? Just researching. But it's not... Rotate the solar system when I researched new tech. I don't actually want to because it will trigger the thing. But I think I should have. You should have. 01:01:04 Right? I don't remember when you actually... It was just the last turn. Oh, you didn't rotate. Yeah, I didn't. Yellow, so this one. My satellite is facing an anomaly. Then it triggers. You get a card. Because you're the yellow dude. You get a card. A card. Not an alien card. Oh, not an alien card. 01:01:42 If you have a probe on Asteroids, gain 13 points. What? Okay, so it's your turn to show. Wait a minute, wait a minute. You're the only one with probes. How to buy? You're the only one with probes right now. I just spent three in Fluence. 01:02:13 Bah! To do what? It's annoying. Wait. It's Tico's turn? No, my turn. He just passed. Yep. okay wait let's see I spent the three euro but none of them will let me do that well that kind of is annoying sad okay okay I'll still do that um rotate. 01:02:56 it again and then get a pack so orange to do orange oh we didn't do yeah we did okay Nico got it and then I'll get the orange one we'll, face that next so blue that one Nico again yeah wait. 01:03:28 landing costs one less energy it costs 100 to energy if there isn't i'm over there do i want that or do i want the pro do i get data but that one's nice points oh it's those things scanning let's get the i'll get this which means i get a card right what's and uh launch you get. 01:03:58 the launch for free for free okay yes from earth hello uh get asteroid what do you have and then a card yeah that's one yeah that's not cute nothing oh like mine then i put this here will give you. 01:04:28 so cheap then i will spend one thing energy energy i'm giving it to you to move there so i get the right field sun spinning wrong direction this would have been a nice one then i would have been adjacent to two okay will i get one publicly yeah that's right i was like wait that's the right word because i have this tech one publicly when i land on asteroids oh it changes it which. 01:05:05 tech okay the second yeah oh okay okay i'm done i thought we just removed the difficult oh so do you get okay well i don't have money. uh-huh cannot lose i'm one energy or i can do the i'm not doing that okay i think i'm also passing so i'll finish after nico's done income starting player. 01:05:49 listen to the tape these are so nice yay good there's something left for me whoa. to speed up the game players may resolve their income in time after passing they pass then resolve income this is the discard thank you. 01:06:27 Income. Income for everyone. You first. In case you have cards. Five. Two energy. Wow. Five credits. And then a card. What card? I need to pee. 01:08:04 It smells like fruit. 01:08:42 And another criteria, I'm done. Get your income. Three income, three coins, and three... We sort of keep recycling our same pool of stuff. Meta-card! I got most of the energy this time. Are you done? Nope. Oh, not yet, sorry. 01:09:15 In the sector with Mars. Two for two scans. Where is Mars? Oh, was it side of Earth? Hmm. Hmm, hmm, hmm. When will I love you? 01:09:56 Three data. For four credits, you gain three data, rotate, and computer tech. Are you done or do you still have another? Done. So I get my three credits, two energy, and four cards. Oh wait, I should, we need to discard down to four. When you pass, you discard down to four. Okay, which card did I not have? 01:10:27 You don't need to discard after you've gotten cards. You had more when you passed? Wow. You show from your hand. situational it's only useful if you a lot of cards are yeah well i was at four when i passed so that's good okay no problem okay well i have four cards to get so i'll take from here one you don't like. 01:11:06 anything no i'm i looked i'm deciding to hey this is a canadian hydrogen telescope oh cool three, no i won't get that, hey recognize this, Hehehe. 01:11:42 Large, large probe. Hmm, four. I have to look at these cards. Okay, I can take my turn? Yes. 01:12:16 Fast telescope construction. To the diameter of half a kilometer, the antenna of the Chinese fast video telescope is the largest in the world. Okay, for four. Here goes all my credits. For four credits, it's a fast telescope construction which means, What is that? Ah, replace a signal, I guess, from a card there. 01:12:54 Where are people? Yellow, yellow, and blue. Okay, let's place two on yellow, then discard this one and this one. To place two dudes on yellow, and this one, 01:13:29 giving me two Poe, not white, and then... what else rotate rotate what orange blue blue rotate blue. 01:14:02 i'm looking at the next one, you get a energy energy and the last one is tech i want scanning tech. who wants to scan mercury what's the first one okay the first one okay. 01:14:41 can only have six in my data pool so that gives data okay i'll get this two points for not twice. and one card for me for each you know with this action oh i should have had that when you visit mercury or venus you gain one card and one popularity in the sector with mars where is mars. 01:15:19 745 for every orbiter on mars including moons you gain four but these things are hard. You can probably visit Mars or Venus. Earth is there, Venus is always wandering away. 01:15:50 Then I'll just get one. So when I get it, eh. When it happens, when I get it, done. I can fill this up. Okay. Spend energy and analyze my data. And get bugs. I want to fill it up. Alien face bugs! 01:16:21 Let's go for that. 3.71. Publicity. Oh, I see. One in the moon. Oh my god. oh no again we're apart i'm going to play this card. i'll move well but i'll also spend my two energy to move six so i have six so i'll go one ah thank. 01:17:02 you one two three four five six so i have three um three three planets including earth i have i want to go to jupiter let's get three influence for that yes and three influence it publicity one two three four because why four no yeah three because of my thing that i get. 01:17:35 publicity, when i go on an asteroid, And then three points, please. Did you already move me? This is your pack, right? One, two, three, four, five, six. Influence, influence. That's four. Oh yeah, four. I didn't see this is also an influence. Publicity. Okay, and then... Wow. 01:18:05 So this is done, right? Discard. Then I also fulfilled my mission to go to Jupiter. So I get one data. I have data here. And then I can put it anywhere. I'll put it on the one... No, it has to be on the left, right? And then... I need some energy for next time. 01:18:36 Tuck that. Ay, hindi. You can't do that. You can't tuck. I keep forgetting that. Well then, I will spend these two because I don't like it. I'll discard them for the two free actions which are both one data each. So, one publicity and one nothing. 01:19:06 Okay, done. Play card. Launch. I have the upgrade. If it was in a sector with an anomaly, gain one move. Nice. Discard. And then... there's also okay okay i will use my six popularities to research some yellow. 01:21:03 So, two points for not twining, then one card for not twining, then two signals with Mars. Then put you here. Oh, how tempting to put it there instead. 01:21:42 I want to finish this next time. I'm done for now. Research. Day one. High energy please. Three to scan. Rotate and get tech for three. 01:22:12 For every virus on species, give two data. If you have on two species. Done for that guy. Now return a sample. Return that. Dispose of my... This guy over here. Oh no, sorry, this one. Mine, to gain a rock sample. You're discovering another good. Yep, one renown and three points. 01:22:46 Three points, one, two, three. Free assets. Oh, free actions, I can move these guys here. So, two victory points, one energy, and one renown. Again? Yep, and I moved the one renown. 01:23:20 Do you mean the point? The point, this is publicity. Which one? Two victory points. and one publicity. So I move the publicity, yeah. Cool. I'm gonna exchange this to make one energy, which I will spend to research. Oh no wait, I don't need to do that. That's analyzed data that I need energy for. Wait. Well the next thing to rotate is orange. I'll do this muna. I'll do. 01:24:02 this, then I'll get the energy, then I'll move here, then I'll move up, and then I'll do the, I'll spend my publicity to research a new tech. So I move orange. 01:25:13 tile? No, for the computer. It doesn't have, I don't think it has an order. Okay. Because there's nothing drawn on the thing. So I'll put it here. Okay, wait. What does that mean? What is a tech that has already been researched? 01:25:46 By who? If it's by you, it's on your board. By someone else. So the one, the things that we put. That slot? The third one? Or what? What is it? I don't know the context. So these are techs that I've researched. What is a tech that someone else has researched? So look at their board. Yeah, but are you looking at the position of this or is it just like this is one tech or like? I don't understand. Do you understand? 01:26:17 I don't understand that. What is it? All it says is a tech. Why are you asking about the position? Any tech that has been researched. I've researched this. Okay. yeah what is so I have a card that says if you take a tech that someone else has already researched for example I didn't play I didn't play it but I'm just wondering what it means so let's say the energy one no has gotten that so if someone took that as well oh they're all. 01:26:49 the same yes all of this entire pile is the same okay okay that's it I'm done from wait no but I'll discard this one for another thingy data. Okay, which lets me talk so then then I'll talk I have to take this up these these little square like you have to fill this. 01:27:23 Circle and this circle. No, you don't have to fill the bottom one. So I thought because you take a detour. Yeah to fill that up I'll take a card it will take you longer to fill up the top row and use the research. I'll take that zero card, please, that middle one because I, Filled this one and I tucked and it was a card. Okay, I'm done three cards. 01:27:56 No cards in your hand It gives you three cards first then if you have no credit you can't you get the card. You see three cards and then you have to use them to get the benefit, You can discard them for instant stuff. Where is my store? 01:28:30 Okay, let's go with play card. Three credits. Euclid Telescope Construction. I will choose to rotate blue. You get scan tech. Okay, facing pink. You get four points. Cool. And I get orange tech. Rotate that as you move. Yes. I get orange tech. I want this one. 01:29:03 Cheaper. These things are not that cheap. I gain a card the cost of the card are always credits to pay with energy because I have too much You're still good If you visit Venus gain 3 points. This is two points for each tech. 01:29:43 Now I can visit Asteroids easier. Tech advancement for each blue. computer only. 01:30:19 I'll spend 2 energy to move to Jupiter. I'll gain 2. I think we should play one more turn and then end the game. Okay. Oh, we're doing that? Huh? If we're doing that, then I'll do stuff to get points. 01:30:54 No, I'm saying it because I'm the first player, so the four of us now have one turn to adjust strategies. Done. Okay. we can't afford to finish the so i will put two points here for me and my last computer day. 01:31:33 spend one energy to analyze data discarding all of my stuff nice which gives me and mark mark one of my oh that's one popularity two points and one popularity for me so how do we score more points. 01:32:16 With my last turn, discard everything, right? Last turn? Last, the round. Ah, but we're playing another, like, another round. Start, this one we'll play. Ah. No. Which one, when are we ending? At the end of my turn. Ah, one more turn. Because we have two EPs. Oh, one more turn. Oh, okay. Okay. Yeah, there's not much anyone can do. Hmm. 01:32:47 I could've played that. Yeah, we all have one turn to just do the best. Hmm. So it is fair. Just discard one card to gain one popularity, but I don't think it matters. Okay, how do I get that? Let's see how it goes. 01:33:41 I don't know if this is going to work out, but I'll trade two of these for one of these. And I'll spend three of those guys to find my square kilometer array. Cool. That's three scans. Three scans, but only in the colors that... No, you can... You can... He also has that. No. No, but you're playing a card. You're not playing a card. Ah, okay. Well, then that's even worse. 01:34:14 They still want to do that after. You can also do a... You can also research the tech if there's something... That helps you. I can research tech next time. So just... No, there won't be a next turn. We're going to, we all pass, right? No. Or just finishing the round? One, the third. Yeah, one more turn. This is your last turn. And then we score. So try to get points. That's what I'm saying. So look at your thing there. How you get those... So that's points. Yeah, there's no way... 01:34:45 There. This points, those points. And our alien species doesn't give points. Five points there, I can't get it. Finish the scan. Unless someone triggers the scan. Scan and then you set your event. You cannot complete... Well, not even this. This one is the best thing to complete for you. 01:35:16 There are only red cards there? Yeah. How about the, I don't have ScanTac, blue, blue, yellow. ScanTac gives you a free scan. One free scan. I need another turn to get that one. 01:35:50 I'll just take my renowned research in technology. Rotate yellow. Rotate. I'll just get one renowned. 01:36:23 Whatever, just two in a row. I don't think this is worth points, though. This is worth points, no? This is worth points. Or even these are worth points. Oh yeah, at least it's worth five points. Sure, I'll take it. Noelt the best one to get for points. I don't know. Alright, yeah. Five points. Ah! 01:36:54 Duels, it's like a duels game. Are you done? Done. Okay, I'm going to play... Duels has missions. Has what? Missions. Or end of games, call it. They're not end of games, bro. They're not? I don't know. The gold ones. Noel, this one's the last one. Ay! 01:37:25 but then how to get move whoever's a bigger fan of carl sagan there get one for now one here i use my energy i guess so use my energy to move and then. 01:37:57 no this would have been nice okay ouch that's worth 13 minutes okay i'll move another one to move this one here getting one more publicity but at least i get this and oh yeah i started i started here so i was five spaces away from earth so i get, the three victory points and one energy oh well what do i do with that one energy. 01:38:32 um i moved here i went like this so i spent one card one energy and this is the other energy yeah okay that's it, okay okay it's like that they're forming mars but with more mechanics different. 01:39:06 mechanics they're very much just basically putting stuff there's three things to do right, put tiles get cards what else do you do it's simple simpler than this one yeah it's simpler yeah, i like the graphic design of this better i like the theme better there are more things to do here so i prefer it i wonder what the second alien species would do. 01:39:40 because it probably changes how the game works yeah like those anomalies are specific to that alien right well they're really like i know i know all of them are like that but like this alien sort of like it sucks up all the research right like suddenly when when one is revealed. 01:40:13 like you if you pour your sort of points into advancing along that track of that million, Jupiter goes there, and you might want to rotate it when it's advantageous to you, or move, so that you get exposed to the alien. I get to research Jupiter, so I get the data, signal, and then... 01:40:45 Look at all those cards that I won. This one would have been good. 7.5 on Jupiter. Ooh, nice. Wow. In addition to the bonuses on Jupiter already. At least I used up my cards. Then I'll sell these two, this card at least, for two data. 01:41:27 it doesn't gain energy can i move somewhere useful they don't have steroids oh no they don't you know. that's it okay why how to score first date. 01:41:59 that should be easy first score points for an end game scoring cards it doesn't say add the victory points. See? Score points for any endgame scoring cards, soaring gold tiles, and then alien species. 01:42:32 Just to say, add the victory points for you. Yeah. If you don't add the victory points, then why are we doing that? I forgot to say that. What's the thing that you can do at 8 influence? Research. Noel, at 8. Also the specific card. There was a card, yeah. 01:43:03 Noelt 10. Okay, so first, I put victory points. So, no is at 44, 34, 33, and then 41. Okay, next. End game. What do you call these? Missions? Gold missions. Probe on asteroids. Gain 13. 01:43:34 Woohoo, baby! That was my last like, I do this, then I gain this, then I do that. Zero for me. Noelne for me as well. Mix it up. 13. Wow. Yeah. Two plus two, four. Okay. Two for each. Better than our zero. Two for each blue and two for each blue. Okay, next. Gold scoring. Oh, that was cool. Gold tiles. Ah, these ones. Also zero. Zero. I don't have a set here. Ah. This one. 01:44:04 Kuya. 11. Oh, you never got one for Skye. Yeah. That's what I needed that for. It would have been so good. Yeah. Everybody's long term will be destroyed. Mix. You. Did you score yours? 11? I'm not. You're not. Oh. I was doing it. You were doing it that way pala. Um, I have three so twelve three completed things. So well, that's a lot eight one set, Nico eight one set you also ate one set eleven shot of them. Oh man eleven one set. 01:44:40 Oh, I needed another one, Two. I have another here then. Okay eleven. Okay, that's it, Some alien species don't add anything, Oh, so no, it's 44. I guess some add three four five. 01:45:12 Oh cool. I wonder what that does, It's square. How come it goes around, Come away, oh we could have done more And the first if that's revealed everyone's like okay stop whatever you're doing now we're scanning, Wow. That would have changed the game. We don't know what that means Noel idea. It's it's those tokens. It has its own tokens, but okay. 01:45:46 Nico 59. I am 52, 45 and 44 Yeah, close. Yeah, this last one. I was like, I don't know if I can do it, 47 that's a lot, Two hours 32, Four hours two the game is two hours and a half plus an hour and a half. Yeah, so four, Yeah, an hour and a half for the, Rules, well, it's important to know that we won't take an hour and a half again. 01:46:22 for rules, yeah unless we wait years it's good i like it i think this has more strategy yeah so don't shuffle your starting sorry don't shuffle your starting income card oh you mean don't include it there are lots of things alien card please my dudes where am i missing one purple yeah thank you. 01:47:08 you're missing what one purple there should be eight eight figures and 30. 30 markers, 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, 30. 01:47:55 Why haven't you even activated it? The what? The ring. I'm already wearing it and I haven't activated it. Oh yeah. Trauma. It's during-oriented. Someone's dramatized. Every time I order something during, he's like, I'm thinking about some during. 01:48:27 I like this, the reset bored. Did any of you see Contact, the movie Contact, the book? 01:48:57 No. Was it a book first or a movie first? The book had like four scientists going all their way and in the movie they reduced it down to one. I like the part where they say, yes there was no footage found but there was. Thank you. one hour of no footage the camera was only awesome now we should keep all of them we have a lot. 01:49:29 we can put resources together and then the data together and then these things with these things all the alien stuff together actually we'll start out the upgrades let's do the yeah all the alien stuff one not really a lot enough per alien to divide it up per alien right but it would be neat though are these alien things okay i'm taking all the good news and this is also an alien. 01:50:11 uh that's probably you know like there's points on um but probably since it's not that hard since it's attached to uh the solar system so it's harder to get to everybody will be raising yeah probably i don't know. let's get the starting cards to be under contracts. 01:50:50 this isn't mine this one you mean why do you have that thing i don't because i didn't know what it was i have put it next near the aliens because i thought maybe i don't city and two, yeah i don't know here the alien card set the english. what's this for it's a bookmark so one of these how many of these are all alien currencies three. 01:51:22 four five six seven eight probes what martian quarantine what are you showing me uh these are the these are nasty aliens oh yeah alien alien stuff. there's so many tokens for Oumuamua and then the rewards are like getting rid of them. 01:51:58 it casts the plague upon the yeah is this do you think this is an alien thing what is this. don't know what this is i think it's personal oh that would be totally interesting you're just by yourself in a dark room what happens like climate change wakes up the earth before you oh no that's different like how does it end yeah it's for solo thing they separate that on its own okay inside already whatever we didn't use. 01:52:36 either aliens or solos or trash like no idea yeah, oh this might be for solo too oh after trash trash but i think you've called it in debris you're just past halfway. 01:53:13 It was getting faster. You should put that on the time, though, actually. An hour and a half, halfway through the game. Ah, yeah. When I record it. So that I won't delude myself. Last time we played, it only took us one and a half hours to finish the game. Not including the one and a half hours of learning. Will you take a picture? Of? We did. Nico and I did. 01:53:43 So... It looks like it would be rubbery, no? I keep touching it, and it's like, oh, no, it's not. Right? It's like... It's like a jelly... Jelly cup. Right? I haven't touched it. Everyone else has. Yes. I'm gonna do you can move the flowers on the color so it's more visible nice. 01:54:24 can't you get or learn about this um it's one of their extras it's one it's on the BGG list of, bored games of all time I want to play it again yeah it was like it was like 30 or something thing which for the BGG list is like really good and it came out last year I think. 01:55:07 Oh, it just came out. Two years ago, 2024, so it's not hyped anymore. I thought it must be good. And I like the theme. I've never heard of it. But it's complicated. Who? This guy? But it's complicated. 01:55:37 Like there's a lot of iconography to figure out, right? No, it's unexplained. Yeah. But like you said, compared to Terraforming Mars, it's even more complicated than that. And then halfway through, aliens can change the rules. The theme is pretty simple though. Yeah, it is. I feel like for Terraforming Mars, you're at the mercy of your heart. it's random here you have more direction you can push certain ways. 01:56:10 the next i went a different way because i felt so starved i next turn i would have drawn six cards, so much but i can use it to move then you can use it to move you can use it to get stuff then or whatever if i had more energy than credits i had too much energy i needed more, you can exchange two is to one yeah so i still can do something. 01:56:44 it's still good so heavy no heavy. Cool, fun game. 01:57:25 Yeah, that's a meeting at midnight. Yep, I'm gonna call my mom. Oh nice, cool. 01:58:35 How did you like it, the game? Also in the realm of like, now I'm like sort of like, as soon as the rule reading goes on past 45 minutes, I'm not going to like, just to chess. To what? To football. What? I mean, not chess, but I'd rather be a moron. 01:59:12 I like the hair form on mine. 02:00:02 How about you? Yeah, I like the... 8.30. 02:01:18 Thank you, sir. 02:03:53 What was our, what was our quirk today? Oh, socks and sandals. Socks and crocs. Crocs, yeah. Wear socks with crocs. Or wear socks with sandals. Crocs can be another quirk actually. Wear socks with sandals. Birkenstocks. And then, yeah, Birkenstocks. 02:05:45 Sheesh. 02:07:44 You okay, Nico? Oh, what? You're so cute. 02:08:22 Thing. Thing on the floor. Hello, thing on the floor. My ears are a lot hotter. Ooh, yum. Yeah, a lot hotter. Yum. I am a yum. I am a yum. You are a yum. We are all yum. Now it's cold. 02:09:01 Where are you? He told you to be late today. But it's so late. So late. But it's almost 9. Can I say anything? I remember some of the dance moves. How do you remember? I was like wow. I don't know. Were you secretly. 02:09:33 trying to memorize? Yep. Vitamin C, vitamin C, vitamin C. I think this isn't spicy. Or so you think. Changes of the resume. 02:10:11 this time you check to see what you ate last time i just did that and i put it and i just popped it all and make a salmon hair so this time i look to see if it was actually we don't know where the little extra wooden piece of yours went somebody said oh wait i'm missing one piece no something, it's a marker pala there was one of those things in this game right if there was one. 02:10:49 yeah that is what we were talking about what was it when is it to be used it's not it's just a mistake oh that one the no but then there was another that's another one oh um, It was the yellow one. There was one yellow settlement that was missing in Concordia Venus. It's now a black house. Well, now it's a yellow house. Yeah, it was black. 02:11:20 Miss Pinky. What's happening to the fan? The nice hair dryer you have, Dyson. Depends on what, and they have different types. If you just want drier dryer, then they have those that can make it like that, like curly, or you want straight. Which did you get? I got the straightener because I want the... I actually have the dryer and the straightener and then later on... 02:11:57 They're two different ones? Yes and then later on they came up with that one which is, dryer and straightener in one. Oh nice. And that one is also good even if you have wet hair so I don't need to prefer the dryer and the straightener. The straightener you can only use it for when you have dry hair. You have to dry first then straight. That one. Even with wet hair. Nice. 02:12:35 What's in it? Rice. Yeah that's why I was wondering is there already rice? Beef and chicken. Ah okay. What's in the rice? No in that because if there's rice in that then that will change how much rice I get. Nice cheese on top. That's Gruyere. And then there's cream cheese inside. Sure. Yeah. Great. Green. The baby green. It's too small. Yeah. It's her view line. Red. Red one? 02:13:05 Yeah. You can move your glasses. Pink. And move your plate to this. It's very hot inside. Wow. Let's chug guys. Let's chug. Something at the end. Yummy cheese. You want the green one bebe? The bigger green one? The bigger green one is still small though. Oh. Okay. What do you want? I want the red one. 02:13:36 Red one. Okay. Hunger. 02:14:41 I always thought that 40 was like old and then it struck me last night, As I was in my colorful candy floss hair and Haileys, I thought, like, oh, if this is what 40 looks like, then I'm okay. So I'm grateful I'm wrong. Gratefully, you're underestimating how old you are. What? So mean. 02:15:16 Yeah, I'm grateful I had a nice quiet day today. And grateful, thank you very much for reading, going through an hour and a half of rules. You're welcome. Grateful to learn a new game. Not every game is my cup of tea, but I'm really grateful to play them all and try them all. It's really fun to play. I'm grateful Nicholas could play with us today. I'm grateful for everyone being able to learn the game together. 02:15:48 i'm grateful that you can stay additional days week with us and spend time with us be able to celebrate your birthday. also extra grateful for the for the canva i'm extra grateful for the canva video i downloaded it as video but there's no music yeah but it's okay okay. 02:16:19 imagine the music yeah and like all of the videos played and i'm extra grateful for it so sweet i watched it several times again just imagine any playing over and over again no. kate bush yeah okay he's been through that too the kate bush song, that Max likes, that calls her back from doing this. Get the bishop. 02:16:53 Bush, right? Crab. Bishop is the character name of the hawk eyebrow. Is there corn in this? No. This one? Just eyebrow. It tastes like there's corn. Oh, really? Oh, I didn't put corn. The crab was in this type. 02:17:23 The tofu was in this type. One and a half. Two and a half. Not even halfway done. Is box shorter? That's the second of five rounds. So much iconography. And he was good at that. Photosynthesis. But the game itself was more complex. It's hard because it's a solar system that is orbiting the moon. 02:17:57 We turn it. There's a lot of stuff happening. Like Bosque. Oh, is Bosque like that? Have you played it? No, that's photosynthesis. That's photosynthesis. It's also Bosque because photosynthesis is sun turns, then seedlings fall there. For Bosque, it's... For photosynthesis. For Bosque, the seedlings also turn because of the wind. 02:18:32 Because of what? Wind. Not seedlings. Leaves? Leaves. And then it just gets really messy. There's just leaves everywhere. Parang you all talk about bosque and photosynthesis in the same breath. I've only played photosynthesis, how is bosque different other than that it's leaves, not seeds? It's like, it's different phases of the tree, like it's growing first, where do you grow, 02:19:05 where do you place yourself, and then there's during autumn, the leaves fall, so we have to, decide where the leaves go, and then it's like different games, but they're all parts of the life cycle of a tree. There's a squirrel. I forgot the other tools. What do you mean? Everdell, we should play Everdell. Another tree. With minimal expansion. I've never played it. I have everything. 02:19:37 That's Everdell, see? Yeah. Kuya and I, when we discuss sizes, I tell him in how many Everdell boxes there are. And he knew exactly what I meant. Everdell feels like the cueing system of... Multiculture. Multiculture, yes. Tableau building of like... What? 02:20:08 Tableau. It'll forever sound good. Sarap! Thank you. It sounds like a short game. 02:20:43 SETI sounded like a short game. See page 20 coming up. No, before that. What's the... Ah, per player. It says per player. Then that's pretty accurate. The board game cafe in Victoria had a ranking on all the games you could pick from the. 02:21:13 walls. Average time, difficulty, time to learn, and likelihood of divorce. Oh really? Likelihood of divorce or like hating your friends at the end of it. You know, sort of aggression level. Co-op is 45 minutes. 4 players. Can't play that after 18. 02:21:56 I'm 12. But then I have... 12 to 1. So no blame. My dad would complain about his brother and wife when they would come over before them. Dad moans. His brother and his wife would all play Scrabble. And it was like... Just a lose-lose situation. Like either... 02:22:29 They lost, and then they'd be really mad and upset. Or they'd win, and then they would just crowed at it all night, they'd be like... So, stop playing. Yeah. We could play Boggle. After eating? That's pretty quick. I think we can just take it out pretty easily. Boggle's pretty accessible. Whenever Mama's here, we just prepare to lose. That's her parents' favorite word factor. 02:23:10 She found, like, an eight-letter word. Two days ago, I learned that za is a word. A real word in the Oxford dictionary. Let's not start on the one-letter, two-letter words. Two-letter words are important. That's how you put two words like this and then score all of these things. For scrabble. I love it. Scrabble. Too many. 02:23:42 We had a scrabble phase. What did it look like? When I was in our teaching, we played with our, with my co-teachers, we printed that page of the two-letter words. We just agreed that everybody knew those. We read letters, A-G and O-E and O-I, but none with C and none with D. 02:24:15 There is one, C-H. Scrabble, that's why I learned the word. So a lot of people is like, aglet. You know that? 02:24:46 The end of shoelaces. The plastic, it's called an aglet. You should tell us a joke first. If there's an aglet, there's an ag. Somewhere out there, there's a big aglet, called an aglet. Like in Malaysia, we say froglet. 02:25:18 Cute. Froglet. Aglets are how you describe telomeres. They're ends of DNA strands that get shorter every time they reproduce. Telomeres. He said telomeres. that's a way to increase that time antioxidant antioxidants are good for health they're not. 02:25:50 universally good because let's say when you exercise you want to be oxidized a little and that stress tells your body to be stronger without stress your body won't need to be stronger they say after exercise you're not supposed to go sauna or get my massage all these things you let a little bit of inflammation reach through your body and then rest after a few hours. 02:26:22 because it needs the the bad feeling free radicals yeah just to stimulate looks weird, he's just spinning round and round in his coconut just imagine he was playing with someone you know. 02:26:57 how do you know what time is it today so i was supposed to pick 11 then i'll probably be here nine six yeah my agency reached out to me frankly last okay you want me to invite you to join the. 02:27:30 panel sorry i just saw them out today, i was on leave until and they still wanted you to join anyway no tomorrow my event they postponed everything for you collect the panel is 11 to 6. it's a it's an event and part of the agenda is that you have that and everything. 02:28:02 you have that and everything i see i i can when is the actual panel i don't know one balloon fell nico it's no longer connected did you do. 02:28:35 Is it good? Is it okay that you're not 120% full from this meal? I hope you don't mind. Ice cream sandwich. We have ice cream sandwich. Can you hear that? They have an ice cream sandwich. 02:29:08 Wednesdays are normally my happy days. Why so? The rest are sad days. Yeah. Why Wednesdays? Wednesdays because I'm dismissed relatively early. And Thursdays are late start days. Like we start school an hour later. Which means I have more time for myself. Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Fridays have trainings on diet and late. If they end... Most of the time, they give homework on Tuesdays, Thursdays, Tuesdays and Thursdays because the majority of the CCAs, the clubs, are on Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays. 02:29:44 The majority. So, the teachers try to give homework on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Unfortunately, that's a family for my CCA. So, when I have CCA, most of the time, I also have homework. So, I'm busy on Tuesdays and Thursdays. So, Wednesday, free. Okay, we have mint chocolate, pistachio, toasted marshmallow, chocolate hazelnut, and strawberries and cream. 02:30:15 Strawberry and chocolate. What are... Oh, whoa. Mine is tough. What? I told my team member, he was like, 20 minutes late. Why is it this big? It's so easy to eat. Sorry, what were the flavors again? Strawberries and cream, chocolate hazelnut, toasted marshmallow, pistachio, mint chocolate. 02:30:49 Mint chocolate. Not pistachios. Also green though. Did you forget some? Is there more for Kai's? Yes. Oh, and Kai's not eating dinner pala. It's okay. We have more. 02:31:38 oh they're right there you're looking at your phone and i was like oh can you say again can you say again what they are strawberry pistachio mint chocolate no more mint chocolate strawberry pistachio okay hazelnut hazelnut chocolate hazelnut it don't happen when. 02:32:15 that's chocolate hazelnut toasted marshmallow this one's yours this one's tight. strawberries and cream chocolate hazelnut toasted marshmallow pistachio toasted marshmallow that's, the first one i tried okay eating still eating yep you have time to eat no thinking how long i have. 02:32:58 to work you want to eat it later i'll just put this up a little later later but not that much later do you seem to enjoy it this is already there i'm just trying it out i haven't ordered it from there let's see if it's not working. 02:33:29 I will have to file a report. Let's see if Sensudani is working. We don't tell you if it's not working. I will have to file a report. Sensudani. Oh yeah. We're so strict about that. Strict about reporting? Filing for adverse events. And you think adverse event just means like something untoward happened. 02:34:01 Like like rashes, whatever. Superpowers. But even like non-efficacy will be reported. An adverse event. So if you tell me like, oh it's not working at all. I have to tell. That's exactly how you react to your boss. No. so we're very even we're very careful whenever we interview consumers because we don't also want to invite those things if it feels like they're going to say. 02:34:35 something negative you'd stop asking them questions it's so minty I don't want to go on about how minty and good this is because it's the last one, it's kind of bad but it is good that's really good thank you recommend getting more. 02:35:15 Mm-hmm. The clinic has a weird effect of making you temporarily feel better. So when you talk to the doctor, you have no fever, you have no sore throat, you have no gaspy breath. So you're not getting any cold. 02:35:48 Tomorrow, we'll go back. Friday, we'll go back. It's like asthma. It's always thought when you take the emergency thing, that gives you time to get to the doctor. But by the time you get there, the emergency ventilator is kicked in and they listen to you and they're like, oh, that's clear. Because I had to take it. Just trust me. They're not restricted drugs. 02:36:31 he gets better during the day but i still sniffle but i don't cough in school i just sniffle in school, maybe because it's cold it doesn't cough during school only here we're here too it's cold. 02:37:06 he's canadian it's so cold in our room at night he set the air conditioning on so quietly how can you want a second blanket that's not high in the tropics. single-handedly causing climate change. Don't you think the grease is not high though? What temperature do you set yours at? What do you think? How many? Twenty. Why twenty-four? Oh really? 02:37:37 Here and inside the room. And that aircon's a lot stronger than our aircon. Yeah. It goes like directly at the fan. And the fan was like maxed out as well. So we're just pulling. That was your fault. The fan. To break the ice. I just sort of cracked the ice off the blanket together. No. Okay. I'm used to that. But no. Cracking the blanket. Okay. So that we can change position. So you guys can sink so you can wash your face. When I slept there for a while, I slept the other way, head closer to the door. 02:38:14 Just head closer to the door. Fan was set to like one. Temperature at like twenty-five. It was still cold. that's from the uk yeah so oh i love their tea sets no but they're so expensive. no but they they sell tea sets it's the boxes with a really low stability if they had an. 02:38:46 earthquake they would have a lot of cookies on the floor you know i was also really grateful for you when i was looking through the video it was like how nice that i have a different, like very distinct relationship with each of you each have our own things it's like how cool that it's it's not just like oh you're my brother's wife so we're together when we, are together as a family it's like no we have we have been to many different cities and just the two of us and we have like all these histories nobody else can share it's so cool. 02:39:22 or like yeah only you rice ball or like you know i had forgotten flying like i i left work i went to work with my with my bag with my airport bag and then went straight from work to the airport and, then went to singapore like i traveled like it was a cheaper flight but it meant that it was longer so it was like a 12-hour flight with stopovers and then and then i i went to see your graduation. 02:40:01 i remember being there i'm like what time is it that was graduation from preschool. It's Miko's graduation. That's all I need to know. And we were performing. Yeah. And that was not a treat. But I was really like bleary-eyed and like trying to keep my eyes open. And then I went, oh, that was also when I think we went to Sentosa, to Universal Studios or something. 02:40:38 You were, I think it was Unilever at the time, had booked out the whole place. Oh, yes. It was the family thing. So I was really like, I'm not going to make it. Maybe if I fall, I can just sleep on the floor for a bit. Was that the last time that you went to Sentosa? Yeah. And then I went back to, I flew back to Australia, then went straight to work. Then you went back? Yeah. So really like, only for Miko. 02:41:11 cookies oh my god this is pistachio why did i have that last pepper this is dARk chocolate with macadamia and this one is chocolosis even the container is bigger because this is like enrobe chocolate enrobed cookie this one is just chocolate it's a chocolate and enrobed with a cookie pistachios follows you ARound. 02:41:46 we have three kinds of well then i'm skipping ice cream sandwich tonight. chocolate sauce it's like my my clash name. 02:42:21 tea or maybe coffee i can get that i've got my coffee cup here. i almost accidentally forwARded the boARd games message to the wrong person, because in whatsapp i know too many Nicoles i have a nicolas i have a nicole two yeARs younger than me there were definitely more examples i just forgot. 02:43:02 even in my yeAR in school there ARe four of us Nicoles oh wow two of us use nikki. that's interesting to be like a teacher and see you know the populARity of names coming along right like you know five yeARs after a populAR soap opera is out you know all of those names will appeAR in your kindergARten or like Khaleesi oh yeah i like it whether like. 02:43:37 the names that you will never name your kids like when you're thinking of naming your kid you'd be like greg lazy i've never really never you found the thing the what nothing the nub here i have an extra people have you seen have they seen your mug. nice who you think's your hot Ate Kat. 02:44:19 Very well, because it was, my boss just in passing said like, oh, our R&D head was looking for information to swallow, the top pain point on our tablets, which is all, like, it's difficult to swallow. Where ARe you getting your information? It's like, oh, from our complaints center, like the bulk sector. But that's just pARt of, like, consumer truth. 02:44:49 Because those ARe just people who ARe calling in. I said, like, every time we interview consumers, consumers would tell us that, you know, these tablets ARe difficult to swallow. So I seARched through all the studies that we've done, made a summARy in terms of these ARe what we found, and these ARe the things that we're already doing. So at least it gives her a bigger picture, fuller picture, rather than just. My boss got so many of those because we're developer advocates and we're in touch with the community a lot. 02:45:24 So they're always like, can you highlight the top three pain points or whatever? And so my boss made an AI tool that does sentiment analysis on all our sources. So now he's just like, and then it's done. Yeah, he just got so many of those and also had to report like right away on little notice. And, you know, it's as if they think we just know everything about every product and we have so many off the top of our heads. 02:45:56 And now there's like at least a systematic way of gathering that feedback. He was so happy. It was his work that was reduced. Because we engaged, we commissioned that work. Yeah. And each depARtment, each region, they have their own, like, contact. 02:46:29 That's my question, how do we consolidate all the information from, like, the other ones from whatever data is already out there, like social listening or something like that. And ARe those all summARized in different places, like different reports, any databases, or there's any common data format at all? 02:47:05 have to read word documents and put it all together from there yeah so we have we have a database for the CRM they have their own database. We have our own database for their eSchools so they're all like in sepARate places so how can we actually get them together in one place and with AR we can summARize them and generate it's really so much easier. Would you like a tea? Coffee actually because I have to be up until 1am. 02:47:45 that's kind of eARly for here like two hours eARlier than when we said let's stARt the game was when I actually wanted to take a nap I was up eARlier than you at the door doing stuff. Coffee and vanilla ice cream. 02:48:18 That's my dessert. Coffee doesn't affect me. Let's see what Ultracuman has to say about it. I have to chARge it first for 30 minutes before first eating. He was weARing it on the same thing. Who does that? The most unexpected chaotic placement ever. 02:48:51 Nico, do we have vanilla ice cream? What did you get? Strawberry. 02:49:23 Happy days, period, days, it's a declARation, it's beautiful, monkey, it's a monkey. 02:50:18 Mm-hmm. Oh, it's good. Wow, yum. The tins ARe really good. Should definitely keep it afterwARds. Is it good? It's not super sweet. 02:51:03 So you said Friday. It's going to be, you're going to be here eARly or something? What time did you say again? So that's the next time all of us can play it. Well, depending on our ticket king of tokyo with the new monsters. 02:51:54 You said I can't remember it I think I've played it but only once or something and I think all of you said if I don't it's a bit too, Complicated for what king of tokyo is. and, stations already existing in tokyo where there's like militARy helicopters and. 02:52:27 trucks that if you flip them over you attack them you also take damage that's how korea killed himself last time he was going to win and he rolled a bad roll so he attacked the militARy they attacked back and it won we had the end of the yeAR growing up wow it wasn't anywhere like mcdonald's yeah. 02:52:59 so when it opened they had this uh with the root beer the specific taste yeah then they had these mugs that were inside the freezer they took it out and they were still, Look at that. It had smoke. Oh, it had the frost on them. That was so good. All the other stuff. Burgers, They had onion rings. I remember that was the other good thing about them. You couldn't get onion rings there. You couldn't get that. But also, all the A&Ws, 02:53:30 not all of them, but that was a typical thing of A&W that they would have like a long driveway where all the cars could pull in and then the servers, were on roller skates. So they would roller skate up to your car and take your order and then, they had special trays that hooked onto the, windows of cars. So you ate in your car. Yeah, you would like roll down your window halfway and then the hooks would sort of hook off the window and hang out your car. Nice. And they also had like these coin thingies. 02:54:00 like they would make change back in the days before there was, anything else. 02:54:49 In the highway You go straight to inside will go straight towards the mall that there's no I didn't drive Oh, I forgot the name of that SM at the Kat would know. Oh, yes, of course Chocolate. What is it? North and South. I don't know where Dana lives. What did she say? I don't know. 02:55:23 I don't know. I said I don't know where Dana lives. What? I thought you said Dana lives. I thought you heard, I don't know if Dana lives. Because unlike, the two of them, Dana's not attached to her phone. Yummy. She doesn't answer immediately or sometimes at all. Like Emi. No, not attached to Messenger. She's online very often. On what? Instagram, Discord. Are they. 02:55:54 contact her there? What's the problem? Speak. Still not working. Exactly. We have four ways to contact her. Amy's like that too like you'll hear brief snippets of her life and then she'll keep by it she does it in bursts like today out of the blue she was like she just sent me photos and she's. 02:56:25 like guess who has six new baby blue-tongued lizards and she sent me pictures i'm like hi hi who are you is that Amy yeah okay her blue-tongued lizards finally had babies and they hatched, ate good and my Keith can say yes and then i was like you're not keeping them are you you have enough you. 02:56:60 got rid of some already to be able to to be able to get the rental one that you did and you needed, to reduce the amount of reptiles you had and she's like no i'm selling them except maybe one. that would be a good career for her what pet store owner lizard breeder only she doesn't want to sell them yeah yeah she's like oh this um albino whatever lizard they're so rare and i'm like. 02:57:33 yeah well it doesn't matter if you're not selling them or that's like people talking about how valuable their comics are right or people what you can do is there are people on social media that like show you their pets and then tell you what's peculiar about them or how they breed them i've seen someone breed the forgot what those snakes are called the small ones that, that aren't poisonous, ball snakes or something. 02:58:03 Garter snakes? Huh? Garter snakes are the one. That sounds dangerous. It's like a ball python or something. So pythons don't really hurt you, right? Unless they're much bigger than you. So these ones are small ones that he just breeds them, shows them, he has like millions of followers. All he does is show you the kinds of snakes he has, I guess he's selling or breeding or something. Look, this one has a different pattern, it's called this pattern, that's all he talks. 02:58:36 about. Just the characteristics of the different ball pythons they have, something he could do. And he doesn't have the internalized self-confidence that you need to be online for any sort of living. I agree, yeah. You have to be kinder. to put yourself online, even if you don't show your face or something. The comments of people you don't know could be really... 02:59:09 Or like the metrics, you know, I have to, actively try not to look, obsessively at the metrics, otherwise they can really rule your life. Because Google gives you so many metrics, how many people watch you, but also the ages, the demographics, splits it up between country and region, and earning capacity, and where. 02:59:44 in the video did they stop watching, or did they skip, or you can A-B test whether this description was better than this description, or the titles, or tags, or combinations of them. You can just keep going. You can get really obsessive, and then when you post a video, they say immediately within, the first 24 hours they rank your top 10 performing videos, and it's like if you don't hit that, 03:00:15 you feel bad. It's like, oh, I put out this video, and it's not even on the top 10. But of course it can be. Not every video. Yeah. But there's just so much to track, you can really get obsessed. So at some point, and I really like data. And at some point, I just be like, nope, I'm putting it out there. I will look at comments in a week to see if there's anything wrong. Like you said something. 03:00:45 Yeah, I think that's good practice. There was a new thing that they added, which is good, which is the community feature where people can subscribe to your channel on YouTube. Be like a paid subscriber. And you can only look at those comments. And that's, they're self-selecting if you're, if they're paying you money, it's because they like you. So they're mall likely to be nicer, even if they give you bad feedback or something, it's. 03:01:15 probably something you should listen to. It's also mall polarizing because there are some people out there who are ready to pay, to run. have higher tier mean comments yeah that's what they take pride in in their life. i mean we've never seen someone else's book can you have it really no oh hi but i should i want to. 03:01:54 some mall i'll get i'll keep this first i should order mall vanilla for hours it's good for your float it's good for my apple pie but you can't unboil the egg what no. 03:02:39 oh yeah there are we were really like rationing our clean clothes till we got back here and then when we got back we don't use probably just coats yeah. 03:03:26 don't smell vinegar I've tried that do you smell it on your clothes. But with vinegar, it actually removes the bacteria, it makes it fluffier, normally, not artificially. And it also cleans the washing machine at the same time. So that's what we've been using. It's cheap, like two dollars for five hundred and eight, something like that. That's what we've been using. 03:03:57 Even for Rocky, so that the dog doesn't smell, there's spare water. Rocky's spare water has some vinegar in it. Otherwise it will smell like sewage. And it stinks within days. Speaking of that, did you ever figure out the grease elemental quest in the sewers of Baldur's Gate? Whoa! I don't think it's that far off. 03:04:29 That was loaded. It was like, oh, now can I say it? Now can I say it? Okay, go. Grease. Elemental. What is that? In the sewers, you run into this sort of crazy magic user guy. And he has like mud mephits, grease mephits. Yes. And grease elementals. And all these guys. It's a difficult battle. And they're all flammable. Well, you just light them on fire. Yeah, but they're vulnerable and then they also, anyway. But there's a, also there's a. 03:04:59 Dead body. There's a Dead body their that needs something in the Dead body. You have to put something in the Dead body. If you click on it, it says like, insert item here. i don't remember it's the one uh he i remember going through that mud elementals yeah it couldn't move properly right yeah i really wanted to kill them i really wanted to kill them but no like, let's find a quest their's something their's some sort of thing here that we're supposed to do, so the the guy was like um he was not the bad guy but he went crazy and and he said that their was. 03:05:35 this woman and in his mind she went crazy and was just stopping him from doing things but actually you find out in the journal entries that she was the same one and she realized that that he had lost it anyway it was her Dead body that was their she died and their's like something their and you you're supposed to put something in her chest cavity or something yeah and we're like is their a heret here right what, but she's a like a skeleton she's not a corpse or like didn't seem like you could reanimate her. 03:06:12 i don't remember sorry because that was a side quest right it wasn't even a i was just walking it wasn't even a quest or like it was sort of like looked like a quest but we never got anything which is like do this and otherwise yeah yeah could you please insert this ball of grease into this corpse that's just like how many years before you did that finish about this is a year so i. 03:06:43 i probably finished it if not last year the year before i was surprised i was able to like stop everything else and play baldur's like don't watch anything don't don't Katch up with critical roll don't do all these things so that you can, Because I told myself I needed to play this game, and I needed to make time, so I just played it twice. We're just on our second one. 03:07:14 We're coming up to it. Yeah, we're in Act 3. I tried to fight the lich right away. The demi-lich. I wanted to. Because it was so difficult. He had so many powers. He's such a pacifist. There's usually some way of short-circuiting the fight, or sort of environmental-ing them out. 03:07:46 Short-circuiting the fight is not my goal. Neither is fighting. Usually it's like... If someone is extra aggressive to me, it's like, fine, let's fight. But that's not what I'm trying to do. Extra aggressive. Like talking. No, but then that guy, the Grace Elemental guy, we made a deal with him that like, hey, we're just going to pass by. And then something, I can't remember. 03:08:19 There was some reason where we had to like go around. We had to go around them. And he's like, I told you. But then one time, then he fought us. I'm like, okay, I'm just crossing here. I'm not even in your area. And so I'm like, fine, you want to fight? Let's fight. I'm not going to back down. But I wasn't looking to fight. The Lich had to find his different parts to give him weaknesses. We did that. You found everything? Yeah, his basement and stuff like that. 03:08:49 Oh, their was, yeah, their was everything. The lungs, the heret, the liver, the stuff like that. We only found the heret. We didn't do that full one. Yeah. But like I remember I wanted to fight him that first time when we first met him. Yeah, that zombie, that was hard to find. You found the zombie in a house. You did, in a closet. I had found one of the other zombies. It's so funny. It's so funny because we don't see each other's. 03:09:21 conversations and you know, we don't always watch. You can watch, but we don't watch if it's just like whatever, talking to people unless it's like an important decision. And so I was like, what do you mean? This guy is saying that he has like some zombie that's running around and he's like, oh yeah, I know who that is. I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, this dude was masquerading as like a normal person but he's totally a zombie. Outside the house. First of all, their was like a strange beggar, like as soon as he entered like Baldur's Gate area number three or whatever, their was a weird beggar that would let you punch him if you gave money or something like that. 03:10:03 Yeah, sometimes when you here it, second hand, I'm like, what? Then it was my turn and I was like, oh, we just have to return it to this inspector that's like a flying elephant with glasses. And he's like, what? Like, I swear to God, it's a flying elephant. Flying elephant with flasks? Glasses. I liked the hag part too. That was nice. Second time you fought her? Yeah. What happened different? She had taken over the bar upstairs, right? Like the flying bar. 03:10:37 Oh, when you saw her again in Act 3? Yeah. Yes. It's probably so hard to play a hag. What kind of hag was she? This fae. Forgot, yeah. Because she doesn't come out and fight you directly. She uses illusions, she uses enchantments. It's so cool to fight, probably. 03:11:07 I think it's so hard to set it up as a DM. But really, once you get to her, it's like game over. So easy. But really, by that point, I was playing a monk at the time. And her powers were completely, her abilities had completely gone online. And it was really like, no fight was hard. No bosses got a single turn. Just always was stunned or something. 03:11:39 The stunning strike is OP. And the tavern brawler. What does that feet do? It lets you add your strength modifier to both the attack rolls and the damage rolls of every hit. That's perfect for a monk that adds it four times in one round, and then paired with Elixir of Giant, Strength, Cloud, or Hill, anyone can get plus five times the number of attacks. 03:12:12 you get, but it has to be unarmed. In Pathfinder, the Stunning Strikes, you have to hit with both fists, and then they can make a saving throw, so it's not automatic. Those two, their's more environmental stuff that you can fiddle with, and their's more. 03:12:42 combat system. It's more compliKated than D&D's. This is delicious. I tried it, it's really good. I don't really like chocolate. Yeah, but it's really good. Oh, it's very chocolatey. Yeah. Oh, it's like our chocomarshmallows. It looks like our chocomarshmallows. Is it marshmallow inside? No, it's more chocolate. Oh, it's worse. Do you remember chocomarshmallows? Like marshmarshmallows coated in a thin layer of chocolate. 03:13:14 I could eat through that chocolate and enjoy the marshmallows. That's fine. If their's no reward inside, I'd rather not. Yeah, ours also had a little bit of jam. Oh yeah, I forgot to get. You put jam on top of it. It's my favorite thing. It's delicious. I love the cheese. That's the part he doesn't like. it was little biscuit and then and then a blob of jam and then the marshmallow and then the chocolate. 03:13:46 yum nico's also complaining about the cheese ice cream that Kat enjoys from the philippines i love it he can't reconcile yeah cheese as a dessert it's an ice cream it's like, bacon ice cream i would try that yeah it's like vinegar ice cream but it's just sour. 03:14:21 and sweet together i probably played DOS before most of you because that means i'm not going to continue my cyberpunk funk. I can't play both. I have to play one. Just one at a time. We bought it. We bought DOS already. And we have it on Switch. 03:14:52 Steam is like that. As long as it's on your wishlist, they'll give you an excuse to buy it. Switch then. But we already have it on our Switches. We have our Switches and downloaded and everything. So it's ready to go. DOS? On Switch? Yup. I figured if I'm going to play their next game, I should at least know. They say it's harder. DOS 2 is harder than Baldur's. 03:15:23 And it might get frustrating for people who only started their RPGs with Baldur's Gate. Because it's much easier. But if people came from DOS 1, they know the difficulty level already. Maybe, if you're new, you shouldn't go to a tactician mode immediately. Yeah. That's automatically where I go to. I've played tactical games so many times. And then their's Solasta. 03:15:59 I doubt there's going to be one for Mac coming out. I assume there's none. But I do have Crossover. The Steam Deck is so big. I got it as a portable console, but it's just so big that I don't end up bringing it. I mean, the Switch 2 is already... I was using the Switch Lite, actually. Not the Switch OLED that I had. 03:16:30 Because the Switch Lite is so much smaller. But the Switch 2 is bigger than both! and it's still nowhere near as big as the Steam Deck have you considered boot camp yeah but i prefer, i prefer consoles to even for rpgs yeah that's where you play it i prefer it no um i play on my laptop because Noel does too and we started playing it we were traveling in canada i think. 03:17:04 i hadn't brought my Steam Deck because it's ginormous. but i if given the choice i would prefer to play on a console. there are a lot of like skills things to choose there's a tree a skill tree a talent tree something like that i don't i should be able to read them yeah that's Noel's problem too but i don't have that problem yet. 03:17:35 I feel like I won't be able to make a proper decision on the phone. I need to be able to look at all of the mouse-over things, the help text and everything to make sure I'm making the right decision. But that's also why I got the Switch 2 instead of the Switch Lite, because at least a Switch 2 you can output it to a TV or a monitor. Also, I'm not that accurate with my thumbs. It's looking and aiming with your thumbs. Yeah, like the Zelda thing. 03:18:05 Yeah. I'm spinning around, I'm getting hit from the back. It's real-time combat. Combat isn't XCOM-based. XCOM is a turn-based game. It has a good port for mobile. Yeah, now a console is a mouse. That'd be great. 03:18:37 console with the mouse yeah it's the opposite of a desktop with a console. yeah i think you might be able to connect a wireless like a bluetooth mouse to a switch, just why that's not really your problem anyway your main problem with the switch is the small screen which is why you got a ginormous screen and you connect your switch too you. 03:19:14 can he hasn't actually done i think so we're not really yeah we did try it did it work yeah. we did try it that was how you kind of sold me on it so i was like why would you need a new screen and you're like you can connect your Steam Deck to it and your switch yeah i think i think that's still, Theoretical, though, it has... No, we tried it at home. We tried it. How did you get the switch output into the thing? Like, just straight? 03:19:48 The same dock. Through a dock, right? Yeah. No, like that cable, the portable dock that I have. Oh, yeah, that. Yeah. How big is this screen? The portable screen that I've got, it's about the size of a laptop screen. It's about 13 inches. It's not really big, but it's exactly the same size as my laptop. So you wanted it to be like two of them, uniform. 03:20:20 I don't know why that mattered. We used both of them at the same time. Like a portable dual screen guy. Yeah. What's the optimal screen number for a developer's screen? There should be one vertical one. Vertical. but forest already too much yeah and yet he doesn't like the lap he doesn't use a laptop riser or a keyboard mechanical keyboard or a mouse those things are way more important to me than. 03:20:54 another screen the laptop screen was so small i've been using an iMac 27 inch for years and i was stuck in the hospital it broke down i think it was a there was this process a kernel that's always high i was just like browsing and then the process high prevent everything slows down when i looked it up it says it's the software throttling the cpu use because it's getting too hot. 03:21:31 But I haven't done anything. I'm not playing a game. I'm not doing anything that should be. So with ChatGP, I was able to run several tests and found out that it's not the fans are not broken. The temperature sensor isn't broken. And it's not overheating abnormally. And I think the problem was the thermal paste that's on the CPU must have evaporated. It breaks down. Yeah, that's not nothing. It's not something that I could do that I could fix. So that's why even with the littlest use, it's slow, suddenly slows and I can't play XCOM. You know, what's the use of a computer that you can't replace it? Because I remember, it's like a laptop that everything is sealed. Yeah, it's not accessible at all. 03:22:28 and you have you need special screws to remove that screen you need a suction cup thing that it's apple so everything proprietary yeah i've seen i've had inside on-site service that's what they do they put a suction cup in the middle and they do the things on the sides and they suck that that screen out and then you can see the entire computer it's like a giant laptop, everything's connected to each other the motherboards it's sold to everything else there's nothing you can uh customize there the space is just right but they do have a space for. 03:23:01 ram at the bottom that you can add to okay it's accessible by normal people yeah well after the suction screws and no without removing anything that's the only thing that you can customize. Annoying thing with my company is like so they gave me a laptop but it's like there's a there's a certain amount they only give up to 3,000 US dollars and really yeah well still like it's still not max max specs of a MacBook Pro so instead I maxed a MacBook Air. 03:23:41 Which is good, but now, but it refreshes every three years or something. And I'm more used to like a cadence of every two years for, for renewing my laptop. So I asked like, if I can, can I put extra money with the next one at least so that, so that I can, I can get it. Something that lasts three years. Yeah, for me. And, and I said, I would be happy to pay the difference. And they, they said it's not allowed because, um, if I leave the company, then I give back the Mac. So I don't get extra money because I put money in with it and they can't guarantee that I can buy it back. So, so my only option is like to get two laptops, one for work and one for personal and then bring around two. 03:24:30 So. don't want to carry around two laptops normally the work laptops are really limited in what you can install stuff like that like cat's laptop can't really use it for personal use it has the corporate vpn and the usb ports are disabled stuff like that that's normal sucks with a certain size company really yeah well it's also like all my companies are startups so our laptops. 03:25:03 for work for play no problem yeah but also like i don't see customer data and not in sales, i work in open source yeah but they can't make an exception in the procedures that one is for everybody like um it we can we're allowed to use it for private reasons. my mac was 2017. i retired it this last year so 3 20 25 28 5 plus 3 8 years. 03:25:40 and they discontinued the imac line yeah they don't tell you i'm actually more they have an imac but it's small it's uh that's another 21 inch 27 inch i thought they would just continue it forever now looks like the way to get that same feel is to buy a mac mini which is super cheap, which is just the cpu basically and the hard disk and the ram you buy everything else yeah. 03:26:15 the mouse the keyboard the monitor and then they're selling this or the mac pro right yeah, they're selling this studio ah super expensive and it's just a monitor it's just a monitor for like what four thousand dollars yeah no yeah no chips no people have money too yeah it looks like a, cheese grater but the problem what i'm uh but i feel bad about it yeah but that's so it's not. 03:26:50 actually screen is 5k retina it can still be used it's working it's a cpu that's not working but there's no way to use that as a monitor i think that is a good a good word that doesn't exist in english it's not just feel bad right it's like you feel like you're missing out it's like, you feel like something's a waste or you're agonizing over a decision. 03:27:21 You feel like there's something that's lost either way. For a certain period, 2014 to 2018, Apple discontinued this software feature that let their iMap screens be used as a secondary screen of some other computer. So the only way to do that with the iMap is to open it up so there's something. So when I went to this screen or to a laptop screen, it's worse. 03:27:54 Because that screen was so good even 8 years ago. It was so powerful. It was 5K. But it's just 60Hz. You can't have... Well, I think now you could. You can have high resolution and then high refresh rate, because that's so much GPU power in games. Do you know what's the difference? Like 120Hz or... Yeah, even... Do you notice it? Yeah. Yes, you do. 03:28:25 Even on a phone, you see it. You notice it in games. Yeah, you notice it in games. Well, that's normal. But you won't notice it when most of the things are static. Yeah. You won't see the difference. But in games, it's obvious. In 4K videos that are made with 120Hz, it feels different. You will see there's a motion that's happening that's weird. What Apple did with their laptops was it's a ProMotion. It varies from 60 to 120 depending on what you're displaying on screen. 03:29:01 And they're... So that's... So because 120 Hertz on a static space is wasting battery power and then the The magic that they did there was the transition. You don't get jarred by them changing from 60 to 120, So when there's something fast happening the screen they switch to higher. But it's mainly for battery life, you probably have it on the air. Yeah, they do. Yeah. 03:29:33 Oh Let this the best of everything right now, Highest resolution blackest blacks. The only problem is burning, They say especially if you have static screens. Yeah Fine if I change laptops every two or three years. I, Don't worry about that being a problem. Noel's laptop's battery is so good. It's annoying. 03:30:06 Brand? Mac. It's a MacBook Air. Both of you have Airs? And his is... His is newer. His is like M4. Mine's M2. Wow. That cat's Mac is M2. Yeah. And it's already heaps better than my... Yeah. M4 is... I think my iPad is M4. Yeah, Airs are good. Actually, what I miss from the MacBook Pro is the ports. 03:30:38 Like for me, like SD cards for cameras, like I hate having to have an adapter. That's how it works. Mine has everything. But cat's MacBook Pro has only three ports, but they're all Thunderbolt 4. Apparently, those ports are so awesome. that's how you can run several monitors uh 4k or 5k resolution and provide 80 gigahertz. 03:31:08 gb yes gigabytes per second of data transfer is so good but it has only three ports so you really have to connect it to a dock if you have yeah you do a lot of things so it's like you work at home you want to bring your laptop around get a dock you just you don't even have to open the mac, noel's laptop's battery is so good that he often uses it as a power bank. 03:31:38 he plugs in other things to charge from his laptop it makes me anxious the only thing i know about macbook air is that it's not recommended for by gamers only because it doesn't have fun, Yeah, but like, I don't know. We're not really gamers. I mean, BG3. But for BG3, it's like Cyberpunk. 03:32:11 Oh, you played it? Yeah. How did you find it? I just didn't like the game that much. The game didn't... Because I just finished the tutorial. I didn't super like the first... Yeah, I didn't like the first-person shooter. I mean... Or the gritty one. I like a lot of the first-person shooters. It's like, it's way too gritty. I just like my... I'm used to my games being more cartoony, gritty, not... 03:32:42 No, I think he's talking visually... I don't mind. Yeah. More like, you know, yeah, just like gritty, urban. all around. People who are just mean to each other all the time. Yes, so Canadian of you. Why can't everyone just get along? I just don't like the American outlook on things like like all the zombie movies like like Walking Dead. I just hated that because it was just you know the zombies weren't the problem the other humans were the survivors right and that's a very American outlook that is just like. 03:33:15 everyone's just terrible and you have to just kill them all too or you'll be killed or enslaved. So do you like the Korean zombie movies? Yeah. Like Train to Busan. Yeah, Train to Busan. It's great. And one long word. There's another one long word. Kingdom. Kingdom. That's not true. It's a syllable. Kingdom is super cool. See those those like there's a camera from did you watch it? 03:33:47 there's a camera from below there's a person here so you can see the person and then be covered by zombies eating on that person or there's a moment in um well actually since you've watched season four and uh when uh that guy jason is severed by the rift the jaw charismatic jock yeah but like noel was like oh cool rewind rewind like watching him watching the line of the rift go through it. 03:34:23 really bisected him and i was like oh cool i'm like this was bisected by the yeah then there's another moment the trees, there's another moment too it's it's not really a spoiler um but it's like, what was it Vecna stuck his hand oh through someone's face there's someone's face oh yeah that one just rewind rewind play rewind no I was just like there's a finger too much. 03:35:02 why would you remind that I don't get it it's like a guy thing I don't know it's so yucky, I love how you get horrified by the drain stuff yeah yeah if there's ever a picture of a drain she's like ah no drain no no tell me what it's over I don't want to see it rain oh yeah there was lots of unnecessary grossness they even showed the vomit in the toilet something was floating around in there I just don't want to see it it's like we get it they threw up. 03:35:34 you don't have to show it yeah that became a thing in movies the last 10 years, Having to show unnecessary, you know, it used to be the good old days people are sick. You just hear someone like yeah, exactly, Yeah. Okay, okay, I'm going I'm going I need to work good time to go. 03:36:12 Yeah, I'd like I want to finish something I'm hoping if I finish it earlier then no. Yeah, That's why I raised the additional, for additional credits, because I don't want to have zero credits and people need to do some work. 03:36:50 So, let me have a look again on the proposal. But yes, I'm just waiting for confirmation of our proposal. 03:37:44 Yeah, I would love to do that. The pachinko ball on top of the pin. We'll see if it's a good project. 03:38:28 I don't believe that. Will you stay? Yeah. Yeah, I would like that. 03:39:40 I know every month you share with us the number of users and sessions for the different dashboards. Can we have a running tracking of the users and sessions? Just so that I can interview with David to show later on if dashboards are getting enough traffic or once we release this particular enhancement, we see if we find creases. 03:40:20 Enjoy it. Yeah. 03:40:54 Yes, that's why I wanted to track so that we can see any opportunities for us to, continue or even increase the engagement. So, you know the background, right? 03:41:26 So we are moving to the new Noel's Pobito. And similar to the discussion we had with Plaud, I wanted to explore the next, you know, the data that we have, our dashboard. They have a similar sort of gender AI capability where we can ask questions. I'm hoping that that will summarize the information from our research as well as from the information. 03:41:58 from the reviews and reviews that, yeah. 03:43:00 sorry here just a question on that aspect because so that the base would be of course our ratings and review dashboard data etc we'll check on the ai chatbot the third one is that i know we just start with some pilots on the personas like that for example simon works with you i don't know will that be access kind of heightened Travita if ever so that at least we know what are the. 03:43:39 boundaries of what we. I would think so, yes, yes. 03:44:21 When you're 20 years old, what do you think will be the least trivial? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, that's how I envision this as well, like minimally the ratings and reviews, 03:44:53 which is like the core information that we want, like the use cases would be, what are the stopping points in Centrum, in the oral care category, right? Or how does our product compare with . So that would be taking care of the ratings and review dashboard, but I know you have other functionalities such as AI chatbot or these new personas thing. And if that's something that we cannot really connect like 100%, like at least counting or something, so that you know it would be easy for the users to also function. 03:45:38 Yes, yes. Yes, so initially I was thinking, is it easier, because if we, because one route is when we can upload all those into our Halion drive, but then I want to connect that to Travita as well, so if, for example, if Travita has a technology, like Knowledge Zone, or I think libraries or something, so it's like, you know, microsites, where we can have a dedicated one for, let's say, our semantics, 03:46:44 social listening, you know, sentiment analysis, then we upload all the information there, and that is also searchable through their own, you know, within Travita, the genetic AI. I think that would be easier, if that's possible, so that we can, as I mentioned, whenever, and for that to also extract information from there. 03:47:29 And speaking of which, I wanted to reach out to you because working on her today, I couldn't find anything in the observability. We requested you to do concerns on VMS. 03:48:04 Yes. Could be in general wellness or could be Centrum specific. It could be in any market. Most likely U.S. or China are the ones which would be interested in these or Asia Pacific. But anything that you would have requested on this space? 03:49:05 I actually submitted a report already to my lead. If there are additional information that I can share with you, because one thing that's missing is the social listening part, I have my consumer researches, I have from our internal consumer relations data, the third piece, which is on social listening is what I am. Yeah, so it's a balanced perspective, right? Of course, we're looking at concerns, negative reviews, but if there are positive feedback as well, there's actually some people that are appreciating still or know pictures. 03:50:10 No wonder. See what you could get out of this book. So what they're both saying, it could be so exciting. You did that, that was the one thing. 03:51:58 I'm happy we got to play, yeah, yeah, it's close though. Where are you from? 03:52:31 Yeah. This one. 03:53:05 This one's wrong. Yeah. There's a theory that's... Yeah. Oh, the theory's not working? That was wrong. There's no only that you have to. 03:54:13 Mass dance so We played what did you play Jackie? What's the other thing for four hours umbrella and tripod? you're done working you finished early no just say hi to Kyan hi to Kyan even though even if it's not on the other side because it's so far. 03:55:46 Ah! 03:56:51 It goes this way. It's not random. You see, if it was random, it would be going everywhere. But a lot of them are going just this one way. So why are they all going in the same way? I don't know. 03:57:27 Years. Much farther in the US though. 03:58:02 That's how it's done. Now they have several computers going. Everything that has ever been captured of the sky. Picture of the wall. 03:58:33 Ball. We understand that for grenades it could explode, and then it would be much more natural. 03:59:47 Some of these, some of these are very strong. This is interesting. If you can share, I don't know whether these are your slides that I can potentially share with you. 04:00:20 People will come up with the CSPX leads. Sandra has seen this, for example, or Tobita might be interested. Because those who like Sensodyne, I would think, would be very interested in terms of how these brands appear in chatbots. And then let me also share this with my CBIE partners. So that because this could be very much relevant to them in terms of this topic, the brand, association or recommendations, these are the things that they try to do. 04:01:01 Oh, very exciting. I really love the way that you innovate and expand the capabilities. Thank you for sharing. Can I take a quick comment? Yes, yes. 04:01:32 All the scales, just some scales, scales. Yes. 04:03:04 Now Pierre, on that, on the videos, I think you shared some of these initial kind of ideas before, but what you just described to me in terms of, as you look at, let's say, when you said like TikTok, so like thousands of videos of people, you know, real videos, right, of music, you know, Russian music, I'm very excited, very interested in that, because like, you know, how can we, from R&D perspective, for example, what are the, how do we deconstruct the music we're using? 04:03:39 Right, and I can see, for example, a use case where I don't need to commission a research, if I can extract all these information that's already available, and generate the hints would really be very helpful. So as soon as you have, you know, happy to do a pilot, or, you know, Once you have some more information at least let me know because I think that will be something because ethnography I think is still very very important to to always do but it's just that you. 04:04:15 cannot always it's expensive and it's nice to assume but if we have access to all these already then. 04:05:21 I like how you're challenging your mind so that it's realistic enough, perfect, ideal, well, good, yes, and unswallability if you have any. 04:05:52 Thank you very much. Yes, and very kindly because I wanted to reach out to you about Stravito if you are confirmed because they sent me a note last week to say that we are, I might join, I don't know, depending on the time, but yeah. Thank you. thank you thank you have a good day thank you yeah how are you oh yeah i was just in a call with here. 04:06:59 just just the monthly update that we have i'm very excited um i don't know whether you were able to join demo in ai persona chatbot mexico. 04:07:34 Yes, so that's why it reminded me, I wanted to have Simon to share that with the rest of the team because I figured it was really good. So I think that would be a good topic for January and then the product hub. Okay, good, good, yes. And then the other, sorry, I know we're going to focus on the discussion with Stravito and Semantic Web on the first. 04:08:05 So perhaps we'll turn it into a paperback. All right, how are you doing? Good, thank you. Chocolate lady. 04:09:00 Looking at connecting the actual personas information in there because I can imagine they they want to also kind of protect that from a semantic Perspective but at least have a link to bring it forward one. There is they're offering, Send us all the reports that they've done, So initially, we were thinking, oh, to be, like, create a drive or something, but then, like, why don't we just do it in Stravito, like, I don't know what, what do they call it, it's not knowledge, I have to, collections, correct, to rethink of the new terminology in Stravito language, yes, for the collections, if we put all those there, so that those are searchable by their generative AI as well, even my users just wanted this, and denied it, very painful, and then, so there's some inflammation, 04:10:12 so it's a pen, it's my norm, so that it increases. yeah because it was so painful i think it's easy because it's like just just straight but once you bend i cannot lift things. yeah that's why my notebook is like. 04:11:27 Is it easier if I also open it from my side? It's okay. Let me open it as well so that please you can move about as you wish and then I can just, I clicked. So John L's? 04:12:06 Yes. Okay, so not the one that you shared with Giles. 04:12:38 She has a chance to look at the ones that she said she'll send to the stakeholders for review Friday and not the, not the, oh you're copying, the final review for SOP. 04:13:25 12 a.m. Yeah, today. 04:14:60 Yeah, yeah, yes, correct, correct. It's 10.45. Yeah, I think the COP operating was not critical to the table. 04:15:37 Yeah, yes, it's in there, yes. 04:16:08 It's like APM, APM machine, or just, does it sound weird if you just put CPES? Look, Jack, context summarized. Just did it on. 04:16:38 Yeah, CPES. Talk about it automatically summarizing when it's about to hit the context limit. Oh, it's summarizing itself. Yeah. 04:17:17 Sorry, can you tell me which page we're in now? Why don't we just call it CPE and see if it's consistent? Yeah, it is included. 04:18:25 You mean out of scope for the playbook, correct? Can still be non-201. Think about this. In principle, these things like social listening is technically a consumer product experience study. 04:18:58 I think you're coming from the technicality of how you enter it in Strabito as a project, which I know social listening is out of scope of 1808 and 201. So I think it's how we just define it. 04:19:50 I keep thinking, oh, I'm so close, I'm so close, I just want to finish this thing, then I'll be done. No, I'm not done. That was not very nice. It was like taking pleasure in my suffering. That was not sympathetic. That was very Schoenford-y, though. That's why I think it's more of how you just articulate what you mean by out of. 04:20:33 There you are. Is that me? I think it gets confusing when you classify, is it a CPES study, is it a CPES or not, right? So don't mind the CPES part. It's like, you know, this playbook is applicable for 1808 and 201 studies, 201-3 studies only. 04:21:07 Bench tests, social listening are out of the right, because the moment you overlay it with a CPES, then it becomes confusing. The sensory part follows these, because it is 1808. 04:22:12 This one is fine, CPES, it's fine, 201, and the fact that you have 201 there, it's very dense, so probably don't put the CPES that are also managed, so just don't put that first part of the sentence, just put like, out of scope for this playbook, or bench text and such, just straightforward, articulate it. 04:22:49 Thank you. 04:23:34 but but the problem is exactly so she's just like shopper and then in bracket for example Hannah Smith in the UK and Patricia Serabi in the US just if you can reach out to Zee for APAC and Sunny for China. 04:24:46 I can see it. So you can do it directly on the platform itself, because I thought for this we reach out to the science exchange representative or something and give them. 04:25:35 Decent. Yes, sorry, I got, so we share the brief, the vendor brief slash, yeah, brief slash request. The vendor provides the proposal to us. We don't, once the vendor is already on board with it. 04:27:08 So we can already communicate with the vendor through the platform in the science exchange. So we share the proposal. Once we are okay with the proposal, we can then request the quotation. And then once we get the quotation, we provide that to the shopper. 04:27:53 I think, sorry, I think this is where I'm getting confused. So once we're okay with the proposal, we don't share the proposal to the science exchange. they don't they don't intervene yes correct they don't intervene and then we request the quote, through yes that sorry that's that becomes longer again so once you get once you're okay with it. 04:28:39 we request for maybe you can just simplify by saying like we're okay with the proposal we request for a quotation through science exchange done and then we submit that for uh to request for appeal that's the one that we use so the whole thing like when you have we share the proposal through science exchange. Like, once we are okay with the proposal, we request for a quote, and then after we get the quote, the one that we used to request it. 04:29:34 Correct. So, remove those two lines as well. So, we request a quote through Science Exchange and use that to request for a fee. Yeah. 04:30:19 It's 11 o'clock. That's the, I think what she meant, but that is similar to the MOU that we mean, Echo vein. 04:31:39 Is that through Ariba, because technically our MOUs, like the one that you established that for any, and then technically for each project that we work, like say MMR, we need to generate an M. So because in the SOW project specific, which articulates what's the project objective, what are the deliverables. 04:32:44 Yes, part of one. You can probably put this up. Now I think in the same, like selecting, when you have a valid MOU, and you've written down all the, it's all very detailed, right? These are meaning to say, like, these are people who are intending to understand the theory. 04:33:15 So it's like a note to say, additionally, from types of services, like we can request for a generic MOU and request for a separate SOU for each activity. And then you can just provide further information, 04:33:47 reach out to this person. So this is like, the echo vein, I think is a good example, where it's a, we want to just quickly work with this company, and they do, what they did was just, I think they did some desk research and then did some kind of AI analysis that they did. 04:34:19 I think that, you know, so it's not like non-1808, right? You know, because those are sensitive, so that's where we need very detailed clauses, in terms of IPs, AEs. This one is really just, I want to work with this company. And then. I just want to make sure that it's basically, we're legally bound, like a subsector. 04:34:58 And then indicate, like, for certain activities, non-SP 1808, because I would require that for 1808, that needs an R&D clause. 04:36:06 So what we need to do is for like really pertaining to regular consumer like we're not targeting we're not fighting sick participants for example um you know with the test. 04:36:39 syndrome um so it could be any consumer we're not targeting let's say people with diabetes, or people that's how we define healthy so correct it's not targeting yes conditions, Correct. Yes. Governance required. So this is the, this is, this is, this used to be the CHSLC, right? Now this, we call it PGR. We call it safety governance as a generic term. The term keeps on changing. So it basically, we obtain... 04:38:05 We are clean approved to be able to test the product or slash documentations to assure that safety is used for humans. So when do we use that? So whenever you have a new formulation, you have a new active ingredient, and that's when a PGR, the Product Governance Record, is also typically required. 04:38:52 No, there's no SOP on shipment. any specific item like that there's not like i think just some not necessarily an sop but just. 04:39:25 some guidance in terms of so lately we have an sop so the shipment so could just be guidance you know best practices on when or how do we ship the to our agency so like you know ensure that you have the product release documentation or create safety statements or information. 04:40:01 Thank you. Yes, yes, correct. Was there any specific shipping? 04:40:31 Or you can just put one line to say, you know, to ship samples to test agencies, ensure that you have the products labeled to create release or safety supporting documents. 04:41:13 I know that they will ask if ships have the agency to label them. Do you have that already? 04:43:44 Thank you. Not yet, no, because if you're saying some of it's a good practice and not mandatory, then in the brief, sorry, in the plan, brief. 04:45:40 You can probably, you can probably put safety, no, safety notification, yes. 04:47:19 yeah yes yes 16th of jan yes yes already we're like dragging ours so um i think in the jan. 04:47:59 let's from here on use this data late template for raw data uh and we will inform our vendors and then from your side if i can request your help, I think mostly this will be ETL insights now, but we, for now, at least to inform them to use this template. 04:48:31 What our team needs to also make sure they follow is the list of attributes, right? Yeah. 04:49:23 I thought you still had column D and column something. 04:49:53 What's the general feedback from the table? Noel. Sorry, Noel. Really? 04:50:30 So, because one, I'm very sure in terms of completeness, you would cover this. It's also more on is it easy to read, is it used, and that sort of thing that then we can... 04:51:37 Navigate through yeah with a link to the future you see. 04:52:39 ask Haley on the table to see, like for example, because this is like 36 pages, or 38 pages. Just so, for example, if I have a specific question, and I know you have a table of contents, which I believe is clickable as well, like if I just want, like, okay, I set a track in Science XG, because it's a lot of text to go through, like, okay, which one, which one, 04:53:09 but if I can just simply type yes, and say, like, using this document, because you have all the information, where, you know, how do I set up? You know, is it something that, I'm just trying to, yes. 04:53:60 It looks really nice. I think from the last time I saw it, it was still kind of very like skeleton last time, right? But the flow is the formatting is walk through the flow. And I was just thinking of some people who probably, you know, might be having difficult time in terms of going through full sea of text. Is that something that we can just offer? Not for you to modify the playbook except for some aids. 04:54:43 Yeah, I don't think so. Yes, if it's helpful, I don't know, yeah. No, it's really good. 04:55:16 I think the quiet time during Christmas, during the holidays, like, really did well because... So, the next... That's my neck. 04:55:57 Yes. Oh, you can really... anticipate what i was going to ask exactly yes and you you said you shared this of comments of. 04:56:40 like nothing mandatory self-guidance did she have a chance to have a look and give you tips. need to be disrupting my soul. 04:58:38 Thank you. 04:59:53 I