# Episode 167 - Extroversion
URL:: https://share.snipd.com/episode/a490cbe1-fa1a-46ca-aab5-849746096bd5
Author:: This Jungian Life Podcast
## Highlights
> Reactions and Projections in Extroverted vs Introverted Environments
> Key takeaways:
> - It is easier to read what is going on with extroverts.
> - Extroverted feeling types can experience anxiety in introverted environments due to the lack of desired response.
> - Extroverts have an urge to identify with and depend on the outer object.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 3
> It's easier to read what's going on with extroverts. They're kind of out there.
> Speaker 2
> And if you're an extroverted feeling type and you're in a very introverted environment, it can provoke a lot of anxiety because like you said, you don't get the response back that you Might get from another extroverted feeling type. And you project onto that. Oh my gosh, they don't like me. They're not listening, whatever it is.
> Speaker 1
> And one way that Jung described this urge is that extroverts crave the outer object and want to identify with it and create a voluntary dependence on it. ([Time 0:12:08](https://share.snipd.com/snip/52098ebe-513e-4cc9-a6a4-70afcd08a7cc))
> Jung's Description of Extroverts and Their Urge to Identify with Outer Objects
> Key takeaways:
> - Extroverts have an urge to identify with and depend on the outer object
> - Extroverts merge with and identify with the people around them
> - Extroverts need information and encouragement to understand others
> - Extroverts can appear mercurial and changeable as they seek relationships
> - Merging for extroverts is not pathological, but a form of imaginative merging
> - Extroverts can be unusually attentive and attuned to others
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> And one way that Jung described this urge is that extroverts crave the outer object and want to identify with it and create a voluntary dependence on it. So for instance, in that environment where you wish that people were warmer, the extrovert comes into a situation, maybe you're coming into a new job, you've just been hired and you're Trying to make connections in the office, extroverts have a natural sense of wanting to merge with the people around them and to identify with them. In order to do that, extroverts also need a lot of information and encouragement from those people so that they can come up with a sense of who the other is. It can make extroverts often seem very mercurial and changeable as they're seeking to come into relationship without our objects. But that's not a loss of identity. And when Jung was talking about merging, he was not using that word with any kind of pathological intent around it. The way I think with a lot of boundaries work that's come up in modern psychology, there's a different kind of concern about merging. But this is a kind of imaginative merging with other objects, which allows extroverts to be sometimes unusually attentive and attuned to other people in other situations. ([Time 0:12:40](https://share.snipd.com/snip/21df241c-4be8-4f2a-a146-93d9deb3d5a6))
> Understanding the Lack of Relational Grounding and Anxiety in Social Environments
> Key takeaways:
> - The speaker realized that the lack of relational grounding was causing discomfort but understood the need to tolerate the anxiety.
> - In an environment where encouragement is not received, extroverted feeling types may become overwhelmed and lose their confidence.
> - Losing one's thread and experiencing stumbling and stuttering can lead to feelings of disaster and confusion.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 2
> I mean, once I realized that it was that lack of relational grounding that was being offered, it still made me uncomfortable. But I understood what it was and I recognized that my job was simply to tolerate the anxiety and not get completely, not to go to bits about it because that can happen. You know, we're in this environment, we're not getting that sort of encouragement back. We're looking to the outer object, as it were, the other person to kind of help us along and it's not coming. And if we're an extroverted feeling type, that can absolutely make us go to bits without us even understanding why we're going to dance. And then we lose our thread and we start stumbling and we're stuttering and, you know, it's like it's a disaster. And sometimes you're like, well, I don't even know why I was a disaster. ([Time 0:15:31](https://share.snipd.com/snip/3d649909-61ac-45ea-9cb6-d5743da6a459))
> The Impact of Typological Lens on Meaning-making and Interactions
> Key takeaways:
> - extroverted feeling types are driven to harmonize with outer people and objective situations
> - they want to be in good harmony
> - they tend to not want discord
> - feeling types are often highly beloved
> - extroverted feeling types need to do extra work to differentiate their own emotions from those of the group or organization they are associated with
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> And for the extroverted feeling type, if they're prepared to sacrifice a bit of that relational feeling tone, they can be better prepared to ground themselves. And some other perhaps auxiliary function in their personality. So another way of summarizing this is that extroverted feeling types are driven to harmonize with outer people and objective situations. Yeah. They want to be in good harmony. They want to have a positive affected relationship between themselves and the outer situations. They tend to not want discord. So feeling types are often highly beloved. They're capable of a tremendous amount of appreciation. They're capable of a tremendous amount of sympathy. But as we all know, extroverted feeling types can have to do some extra work to ask themselves what do I as discreet a being really feel? What are my emotions deeply within myself that are not conditioned by the group of people I'm with or the organization that I'm identified with? Right. So that differentiation. ([Time 0:18:09](https://share.snipd.com/snip/c808070f-371f-4cab-a8a1-b7a44d87608c))
> Extroverted Thinking Types and Their Tendency to Collect and Re-Express Thoughts
> Key takeaways:
> - Extroverted thinking types tend to collect deeply gratifying thoughts and re-express them in various circumstances.
> - They often expect other people to adopt their way of thinking.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> So extroverted thinking types have a tendency to collect thoughts that are deeply gratifying to them and want to re-express them in various circumstances and expect other people To adopt those thinking. ([Time 0:20:07](https://share.snipd.com/snip/725970ed-13b4-4a44-9479-dc77ccdee2bf))
> The tendencies of extroverted thinking types
> Key takeaways:
> - Extroverted thinking types tend to collect and re-express thoughts they find gratifying, expecting others to adopt them
> - Extroverted thinking types have a tendency to want to elevate ideas and intellectual formulas to solve problems for themselves and the world
> - Extroverted thinking types have a strong impulse to provide sagacious advice
> - Extroverted thinking types enjoy casting their inner thinking function out into the room to be played with
> - Introverted thinking types may function differently but still enjoy talking to themselves about various thoughts they enjoy
> - Extroverted thinking types enjoy pontificating or expressing their thoughts in a confident and assertive manner
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> So extroverted thinking types have a tendency to collect thoughts that are deeply gratifying to them and want to re-express them in various circumstances and expect other people To adopt those thinking. Which is basically a self confession on my part.
> Speaker 3
> Fair enough. I'm resonating to the self confession about extroverted feeling types.
> Speaker 1
> So as an extroverted thinking type, I have a tendency to want to elevate certain ideas and elevate intellectual formulas which solve problems for me and then for the world at large, Which creates this tremendous impulse in me to provide sagacious advice. And it is like the plague of my analytic style. Whether I'm biting my tongue because I want to give this great formulaic thinking clarity or whether it tumbles out of my mouth in the middle of every session. But it is part of wanting to take my inner thinking function and cast it out into the room, cast it out to be played with. I'm not so sure if I could buy the people around me an introverted thinking type might function the same way, but they would be very happy to talk to themselves about various thoughts That they enjoy. But extroverted thinking types enjoy pontificating, or as my mother used to say, don't be such a maven. ([Time 0:20:07](https://share.snipd.com/snip/17132982-2805-40bd-a8c9-86a3aa2144f7))
> The Role of Extroverted Thinking in the Age of Enlightenment and Universal Applicability
> Key takeaways:
> - The age of enlightenment was driven by extroverted thinking.
> - Extroverted thinking seeks to establish principles with universal applicability.
> - Extroverted thinking types are attracted to studying arcane systems with universals.
> - Extroverted thinking types value ideas that are universal over idiosyncratic ones.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> The entire age of enlightenment was driven by extroverted thinking. And the idea of establishing principles that have universal applicability is part of extroverted thinking. So even my own attachment to studying hermetic kabbalah or other kinds of arcane systems where there are certain ways of thinking and certain cosmologies that then get passed down As universals to an extroverted thinking type. That's, you know, the most delicious thing they've tasted, you know, all day. And I think also extroverted thinking types can feel whether or not a particular idea is universal or idiosyncratic and will generally set up a value system that if something feels More universal, somehow it has much more value. Thoughts that are idiosyncratic seem like something that should be disposed of or at least held very lowly. ([Time 0:23:47](https://share.snipd.com/snip/3ab0e3f9-e23f-458d-845a-6213d3670507))
> Extroverted Sensation: Accumulating Experiences of Concrete Objects
> Key takeaways:
> - Extroverted sensation involves seeking actual experiences of concrete objects.
> - Extroverted sensate types can be overly focused on external reality.
> - Sensate types prioritize practical aspects that can be seen, tasted, and felt.
> - Extroverted intuitives are more concerned with concepts and ideas.
> - Understanding the general framework is important in determining the operating principle.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> Extroverted sensation. It's another topic we can put out there. And Jung says of this, they seek an accumulation of actual experiences of concrete objects. And extroverted sensate types can become so riveted on the reality out there that sometimes they cannot recognize that other things may be happening at the same time. Neither of us, none of us, I think are extroverted sensate types. Hell now. As we bump our heads into door frames regularly.
> Speaker 3
> And are often on a very different wavelength, conversationally, of that the sensate type wants practical aspects, what you can see here, taste, feel, whereas the extroverted intuitive, Which I'm sure we'll get to next, are thinking about concepts and ideas. And yeah, but what's the general framework here that's the operating principle? ([Time 0:24:56](https://share.snipd.com/snip/d44dbc3a-c9c9-4ba4-ac19-7c4d524b891e))
> Monitoring the Physical Environment and Engaging with Possibilities
> Key takeaways:
> - extroverted intuition is engaged with the possibilities of outer objects
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> Extroverted intuition becomes deeply engaged with the possibilities of the outer objects. ([Time 0:30:59](https://share.snipd.com/snip/1b740622-e197-4248-8d56-39cc6fafa4ad))
> Analytic downfall and intuitive fantasies
> Key takeaways:
> - For people who are really potent in extroverted intuition, it feels like the whole life has vanished into the new situation.
> - The idea of starting the podcast came out of extroverted intuition and was met with enthusiasm by the others.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> So there's a great quote where Jung is talking about extroverted intuition. And he says, for people who are really potent in this instinct, it says though the whole life has vanished into the new situation.
> Speaker 2
> Yeah, that's really, that's, that's, that feels rings really true. I mean, I know I remember when we had the first conversation about starting the podcast, you know, which was the sort of this idea that came out of my extroverted intuition. And you guys were both really enthusiastic, of course. ([Time 0:33:11](https://share.snipd.com/snip/c4c55fb7-cef0-40a2-8691-827db4f9b78a))
> The Uncanny Ability of Extroverted Intuition
> Key takeaways:
> - extroverted intuition can determine the red, yellow, and green light of something
> - extroverted intuitives have a sense of when to proceed, slow down, or stop
> - extroverted intuition helps in perceiving situations and people
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> Extroverted intuition has an uncanny ability to, to determine the red, yellow and green light of something. Hmm. Or there's a real sense that it's time to proceed. Now's the time, or it's time to slow down, or it's time to stop. And extroverted intuitives have a, have an uncanny ability around flowing or receding, depending on these mysterious ways of perceiving situations and people. ([Time 0:34:20](https://share.snipd.com/snip/51fded17-5361-4d07-8a71-f17ec137a90d))
> The Importance of Differentiation in Jungian Work
> Key takeaways:
> - Typology and differentiation are central ideas in Jungian work.
> - Differentiation involves the development of differences and the separation of parts from the whole.
> - Jung emphasized the importance of meditating on distinctions to have a functional direction and goal in life.
> - When functions are melded together, people tend to over focus on what is irrelevant.
> - Undifferentiated thinking and feeling are unable to operate independently and are mixed up with other functions.
> - Without differentiation, direction is impossible and fusion with the irrelevant precludes it.
> - Only a differentiated function is capable of being directed.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> So all of this talk about typology is part of a central idea in Jungian work. The idea of differentiation. All of us start with the Masa Confuza, which is that our contents of consciousness and the unconscious are all in the kind of roiling cloud, including our various sources. And one of the reasons that Jung wanted people to really meditate on these distinctions is so that they could actually move through life with a functional direction and goal. When the functions are are melded with each other into weird amalgams, people have a tendency to over focus on what is irrelevant. So I'm going to read a quote to start this bit of our conversation. Differentiation means the development of differences, the separation of parts from the whole. In this work, I employ the concept of differentiation chiefly with respect to the psychological functions. So long as a function is still so fused with one or more of the other functions, thinking with feeling, feeling with sensation, etc. That it is unable to operate on its own. It is in an archaic condition, not differentiated, not separated from the whole as a special part and existing by itself. Undifferentiated thinking is incapable of thinking apart from other functions. It is continually mixed up with sensations and feeling and intuitions, just as undifferentiated feeling is mixed up with sensations and fantasies. So there's a real cost at not having this clean process in relative to establishing a goal for ourselves. He writes, without differentiation, direction is impossible. Since the direction of a function towards a goal depends on its elimination of anything irrelevant. Fusion with the irrelevant precludes direction. Only a differentiated function is capable of being directed. And it's another way of thinking about both ourselves but also our analysis, that are caught in the weeds that don't actually facilitate their lives. ([Time 0:39:03](https://share.snipd.com/snip/b6d49182-4e2e-4b8d-a7b9-e0b610082e7f))
## New highlights added October 13, 2023 at 1:34 PM
> Episode AI notes
> 1. Extroverted feeling types can experience anxiety in introverted environments due to the lack of desired response.
> 2. Extroverts have a natural urge to merge with their environment and identify with the people around them.
> 3. Extroverted feeling types strive to harmonize with others and their surroundings, desiring positive relationships and avoiding discord.
> 4. Extroverted thinking types collect gratifying thoughts and want to share them with others.
> 5. The Age of Enlightenment was driven by extroverted thinking, which focused on establishing universal principles.
> 6. Extroverted sensation involves seeking actual experiences of concrete objects.
> 7. The extroverted intuition is passionately curious about the potential of external objects.
> 8. Intuition can be like a traffic light, signaling when to proceed, slow down, or stop.
> 9. Jungian work emphasizes differentiation of psychological functions, allowing for clear direction and goals in life. ([Time 0:00:00](https://share.snipd.com/episode-takeaways/10d5edec-2bc2-4815-bdb5-e3338a08836e))
---
Title: Episode 167 - Extroversion
Author: This Jungian Life Podcast
Tags: readwise, podcasts
date: 2024-01-30
---
# Episode 167 - Extroversion
URL:: https://share.snipd.com/episode/a490cbe1-fa1a-46ca-aab5-849746096bd5
Author:: This Jungian Life Podcast
## AI-Generated Summary
None
## Highlights
> Episode AI notes
> 1. Extroverted feeling types can experience anxiety in introverted environments due to the lack of desired response.
> 2. Extroverts have a natural urge to merge with their environment and identify with the people around them.
> 3. Extroverted feeling types strive to harmonize with others and their surroundings, desiring positive relationships and avoiding discord.
> 4. Extroverted thinking types collect gratifying thoughts and want to share them with others.
> 5. The Age of Enlightenment was driven by extroverted thinking, which focused on establishing universal principles.
> 6. Extroverted sensation involves seeking actual experiences of concrete objects.
> 7. The extroverted intuition is passionately curious about the potential of external objects.
> 8. Intuition can be like a traffic light, signaling when to proceed, slow down, or stop.
> 9. Jungian work emphasizes differentiation of psychological functions, allowing for clear direction and goals in life. ([Time 0:00:00](https://share.snipd.com/episode-takeaways/10d5edec-2bc2-4815-bdb5-e3338a08836e))
> Reactions and Projections in Extroverted vs Introverted Environments
> Summary:
> Being an extroverted feeling type in an introverted environment can cause anxiety because of the lack of expected response. Extroverts desire connection and dependence on others.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 3
> It's easier to read what's going on with extroverts. They're kind of out there.
> Speaker 2
> And if you're an extroverted feeling type and you're in a very introverted environment, it can provoke a lot of anxiety because like you said, you don't get the response back that you Might get from another extroverted feeling type. And you project onto that. Oh my gosh, they don't like me. They're not listening, whatever it is.
> Speaker 1
> And one way that Jung described this urge is that extroverts crave the outer object and want to identify with it and create a voluntary dependence on it. ([Time 0:12:08](https://share.snipd.com/snip/52098ebe-513e-4cc9-a6a4-70afcd08a7cc))
> Jung's Description of Extroverts and Their Urge to Identify with Outer Objects
> Summary:
> Extroverts have a natural urge to merge with their environment and identify with the people around them. They crave information and encouragement to develop a sense of who others are. This imaginative merging allows them to be attentive and attuned to other people in different situations.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> And one way that Jung described this urge is that extroverts crave the outer object and want to identify with it and create a voluntary dependence on it. So for instance, in that environment where you wish that people were warmer, the extrovert comes into a situation, maybe you're coming into a new job, you've just been hired and you're Trying to make connections in the office, extroverts have a natural sense of wanting to merge with the people around them and to identify with them. In order to do that, extroverts also need a lot of information and encouragement from those people so that they can come up with a sense of who the other is. It can make extroverts often seem very mercurial and changeable as they're seeking to come into relationship without our objects. But that's not a loss of identity. And when Jung was talking about merging, he was not using that word with any kind of pathological intent around it. The way I think with a lot of boundaries work that's come up in modern psychology, there's a different kind of concern about merging. But this is a kind of imaginative merging with other objects, which allows extroverts to be sometimes unusually attentive and attuned to other people in other situations. ([Time 0:12:40](https://share.snipd.com/snip/21df241c-4be8-4f2a-a146-93d9deb3d5a6))
> Understanding the Lack of Relational Grounding and Anxiety in Social Environments
> Key takeaways:
> - The speaker realized that the lack of relational grounding was causing discomfort but understood the need to tolerate the anxiety.
> - In an environment where encouragement is not received, extroverted feeling types may become overwhelmed and lose their confidence.
> - Losing one's thread and experiencing stumbling and stuttering can lead to feelings of disaster and confusion.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 2
> I mean, once I realized that it was that lack of relational grounding that was being offered, it still made me uncomfortable. But I understood what it was and I recognized that my job was simply to tolerate the anxiety and not get completely, not to go to bits about it because that can happen. You know, we're in this environment, we're not getting that sort of encouragement back. We're looking to the outer object, as it were, the other person to kind of help us along and it's not coming. And if we're an extroverted feeling type, that can absolutely make us go to bits without us even understanding why we're going to dance. And then we lose our thread and we start stumbling and we're stuttering and, you know, it's like it's a disaster. And sometimes you're like, well, I don't even know why I was a disaster. ([Time 0:15:31](https://share.snipd.com/snip/3d649909-61ac-45ea-9cb6-d5743da6a459))
> The Impact of Typological Lens on Meaning-making and Interactions
> Summary:
> Extroverted feeling types strive to harmonize with others and their surroundings, desiring positive relationships and avoiding discord. They are highly empathetic and appreciated, but must also work to understand their own emotions independently of external influences.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> And for the extroverted feeling type, if they're prepared to sacrifice a bit of that relational feeling tone, they can be better prepared to ground themselves. And some other perhaps auxiliary function in their personality. So another way of summarizing this is that extroverted feeling types are driven to harmonize with outer people and objective situations. Yeah. They want to be in good harmony. They want to have a positive affected relationship between themselves and the outer situations. They tend to not want discord. So feeling types are often highly beloved. They're capable of a tremendous amount of appreciation. They're capable of a tremendous amount of sympathy. But as we all know, extroverted feeling types can have to do some extra work to ask themselves what do I as discreet a being really feel? What are my emotions deeply within myself that are not conditioned by the group of people I'm with or the organization that I'm identified with? Right. So that differentiation. ([Time 0:18:09](https://share.snipd.com/snip/c808070f-371f-4cab-a8a1-b7a44d87608c))
> Extroverted Thinking Types and Their Tendency to Collect and Re-Express Thoughts
> Summary:
> Extroverted thinking types collect and re-express deeply gratifying thoughts, expecting others to adopt this thinking.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> So extroverted thinking types have a tendency to collect thoughts that are deeply gratifying to them and want to re-express them in various circumstances and expect other people To adopt those thinking. ([Time 0:20:07](https://share.snipd.com/snip/725970ed-13b4-4a44-9479-dc77ccdee2bf))
> The tendencies of extroverted thinking types
> Summary:
> Extroverted thinking types collect gratifying thoughts and want to share them with others. They enjoy giving advice and elevating intellectual ideas. They have a tendency to talk a lot and cast their thoughts out for discussion. Introverted thinking types, on the other hand, prefer to think to themselves. Extroverted thinking types are sometimes called 'mavens'.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> So extroverted thinking types have a tendency to collect thoughts that are deeply gratifying to them and want to re-express them in various circumstances and expect other people To adopt those thinking. Which is basically a self confession on my part.
> Speaker 3
> Fair enough. I'm resonating to the self confession about extroverted feeling types.
> Speaker 1
> So as an extroverted thinking type, I have a tendency to want to elevate certain ideas and elevate intellectual formulas which solve problems for me and then for the world at large, Which creates this tremendous impulse in me to provide sagacious advice. And it is like the plague of my analytic style. Whether I'm biting my tongue because I want to give this great formulaic thinking clarity or whether it tumbles out of my mouth in the middle of every session. But it is part of wanting to take my inner thinking function and cast it out into the room, cast it out to be played with. I'm not so sure if I could buy the people around me an introverted thinking type might function the same way, but they would be very happy to talk to themselves about various thoughts That they enjoy. But extroverted thinking types enjoy pontificating, or as my mother used to say, don't be such a maven. ([Time 0:20:07](https://share.snipd.com/snip/17132982-2805-40bd-a8c9-86a3aa2144f7))
> The Role of Extroverted Thinking in the Age of Enlightenment and Universal Applicability
> Summary:
> The Age of Enlightenment was driven by extroverted thinking, which focused on establishing universal principles. Extroverted thinking types find studying arcane systems and passing down their universals particularly satisfying. They can discern whether an idea is universal or idiosyncratic and place a higher value on universal thoughts.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> The entire age of enlightenment was driven by extroverted thinking. And the idea of establishing principles that have universal applicability is part of extroverted thinking. So even my own attachment to studying hermetic kabbalah or other kinds of arcane systems where there are certain ways of thinking and certain cosmologies that then get passed down As universals to an extroverted thinking type. That's, you know, the most delicious thing they've tasted, you know, all day. And I think also extroverted thinking types can feel whether or not a particular idea is universal or idiosyncratic and will generally set up a value system that if something feels More universal, somehow it has much more value. Thoughts that are idiosyncratic seem like something that should be disposed of or at least held very lowly. ([Time 0:23:47](https://share.snipd.com/snip/3ab0e3f9-e23f-458d-845a-6213d3670507))
> Extroverted Sensation: Accumulating Experiences of Concrete Objects
> Summary:
> Extroverted sensation refers to seeking concrete experiences and being focused on external reality. It contrasts with extroverted intuition, which involves thinking about concepts and ideas. Although we are not extroverted sensate types ourselves, we often bump our heads into door frames and have conversations on a different wavelength. Sensate types value practical aspects that can be seen, tasted, and felt.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> Extroverted sensation. It's another topic we can put out there. And Jung says of this, they seek an accumulation of actual experiences of concrete objects. And extroverted sensate types can become so riveted on the reality out there that sometimes they cannot recognize that other things may be happening at the same time. Neither of us, none of us, I think are extroverted sensate types. Hell now. As we bump our heads into door frames regularly.
> Speaker 3
> And are often on a very different wavelength, conversationally, of that the sensate type wants practical aspects, what you can see here, taste, feel, whereas the extroverted intuitive, Which I'm sure we'll get to next, are thinking about concepts and ideas. And yeah, but what's the general framework here that's the operating principle? ([Time 0:24:56](https://share.snipd.com/snip/d44dbc3a-c9c9-4ba4-ac19-7c4d524b891e))
> Monitoring the Physical Environment and Engaging with Possibilities
> Summary:
> The extroverted intuition is passionately curious about the potential of external objects.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> Extroverted intuition becomes deeply engaged with the possibilities of the outer objects. ([Time 0:30:59](https://share.snipd.com/snip/1b740622-e197-4248-8d56-39cc6fafa4ad))
> Analytic downfall and intuitive fantasies
> Summary:
> Jung explains extroverted intuition by comparing it to a feeling of the whole life vanishing into a new situation. This resonates strongly with the experience of starting a podcast based on an idea derived from extroverted intuition. Both parties were enthusiastic about the idea.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> So there's a great quote where Jung is talking about extroverted intuition. And he says, for people who are really potent in this instinct, it says though the whole life has vanished into the new situation.
> Speaker 2
> Yeah, that's really, that's, that's, that feels rings really true. I mean, I know I remember when we had the first conversation about starting the podcast, you know, which was the sort of this idea that came out of my extroverted intuition. And you guys were both really enthusiastic, of course. ([Time 0:33:11](https://share.snipd.com/snip/c4c55fb7-cef0-40a2-8691-827db4f9b78a))
> The Uncanny Ability of Extroverted Intuition
> Summary:
> Intuition can be like a traffic light, signaling when to proceed, slow down, or stop. Extroverted intuitives are especially skilled at navigating these mysterious signals.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> Extroverted intuition has an uncanny ability to, to determine the red, yellow and green light of something. Hmm. Or there's a real sense that it's time to proceed. Now's the time, or it's time to slow down, or it's time to stop. And extroverted intuitives have a, have an uncanny ability around flowing or receding, depending on these mysterious ways of perceiving situations and people. ([Time 0:34:20](https://share.snipd.com/snip/51fded17-5361-4d07-8a71-f17ec137a90d))
> The Importance of Differentiation in Jungian Work
> Summary:
> Jungian work emphasizes differentiation of psychological functions. This separation allows us to have a clear direction and goal in life. When functions are melded together, we tend to focus on irrelevant things. Without differentiation, direction is impossible. Differentiated functions are capable of being directed.
> Transcript:
> Speaker 1
> So all of this talk about typology is part of a central idea in Jungian work. The idea of differentiation. All of us start with the Masa Confuza, which is that our contents of consciousness and the unconscious are all in the kind of roiling cloud, including our various sources. And one of the reasons that Jung wanted people to really meditate on these distinctions is so that they could actually move through life with a functional direction and goal. When the functions are are melded with each other into weird amalgams, people have a tendency to over focus on what is irrelevant. So I'm going to read a quote to start this bit of our conversation. Differentiation means the development of differences, the separation of parts from the whole. In this work, I employ the concept of differentiation chiefly with respect to the psychological functions. So long as a function is still so fused with one or more of the other functions, thinking with feeling, feeling with sensation, etc. That it is unable to operate on its own. It is in an archaic condition, not differentiated, not separated from the whole as a special part and existing by itself. Undifferentiated thinking is incapable of thinking apart from other functions. It is continually mixed up with sensations and feeling and intuitions, just as undifferentiated feeling is mixed up with sensations and fantasies. So there's a real cost at not having this clean process in relative to establishing a goal for ourselves. He writes, without differentiation, direction is impossible. Since the direction of a function towards a goal depends on its elimination of anything irrelevant. Fusion with the irrelevant precludes direction. Only a differentiated function is capable of being directed. And it's another way of thinking about both ourselves but also our analysis, that are caught in the weeds that don't actually facilitate their lives. ([Time 0:39:03](https://share.snipd.com/snip/b6d49182-4e2e-4b8d-a7b9-e0b610082e7f))