# [[GOH 05 - Distributed tracing for testing with Grafana Tempo and Tracetest]]
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## Talking points
- Introductions: Adnan
- [[Observability-Driven Development]]
- Why are [[Microservices]] hard to monitor?
- How can tracing help?
- What is [[Distributed tracing]]?
- What is [[OpenTelemetry]]?
- What is [[Grafana Tempo]]?
- What is [[Trace-based testing]]?
- What is the relationship between [[Software Testing]] and [[Observability]]? Why aren't they in opposition?
- What would you have to do if you didn't have trace-based testing? Are there alternatives?
- What is Kubeshop? What is [[Tracetest]]?
- Adnan's demo
- Adnan's blog post on Monitoring and testing cloud native APIs with Grafana and Tracetest: https://tracetest.io/blog/monitoring-and-testing-cloud-native-apis-with-grafana
- What part of Tracetest is open source and which part is SaaS?
- Outro
- We're taking a one-hour break, and then Paul and I will be back on k6 Office Hours on this same channel (and the k6 one), where we'll be talking about how to test your gRPC services using Grafana k6.
### Timestamps
00:00:00 Intro
00:04:35 Observability-driven development
00:09:36 Why do you need testing when you have observability?
00:13:15 What is Tracetest?
00:18:41 Why testing goes well with distributed tracing
## Checklist
- [x] Contact the guest and tell them about Office Hours.
> At Grafana Labs, we do a weekly livestream called Grafana Office Hours, where we have guests on to talk about how to use Grafana, observability, or visualization. I saw your [blog post/video/post] on [source] and I think it would be great to have you on the show to share your experience about [topic].
Office Hours is an hour-long live conversation that is streamed to the [Grafana YouTube channel](https://youtube.com/@grafana). It's very casual, and you can also share your screen if you'd like to do a demo (not required). If you'd like to join, I'd love to have you!
- [x] If the guest agrees, choose a date for the Office Hours session. Ask them for a photo you can use for promotion, or ask for permission to use their profile pic on social media.
- [x] Invite them to the Grafana Office Hours calendar invite (choose "this instance only", not the whole series). Change the invite to include the episode number and their name, ie `Grafana Office Hours 01 with Mitch`. This is to save the date.
- [x] Create a thumbnail.
- [x] Schedule the broadcast on Streamyard, and select the Grafana YouTube channel as the destination.
- [x] In the title, include the instance of Office Hours, i.e. `What's new in Grafana 10? (Grafana Office Hours #01)`.
- [x] Add the standard description as per previous Grafana Office Hours shows. Check the video description and add guests' contact details.
- [x] Get the Streamyard invite link and put it in the "location" of the calendar invite to the guest.
- [x] Get the YouTube link to the show.
- [ ] Create an event and announce it on Meetup.
- [ ] Schedule a tweet just when the show begins to say "We're live now!"
- [x] Schedule a Slack message on the internal Grafana workspace (in `#general`).
- [x] Schedule a Slack message on the public Grafana Slack workspace (in `#grafana`)
- [ ] Add timestamps to the video (at least four).
- [ ] Add any links shared to the description of the video.
- [ ] Add the video to video playlists that make sense (at the very least, the "Grafana Office Hours" one.)
### Just before the show
- Before the show
- [ ] How do you pronounce your name?
- [ ] Twitter handles
- [ ] We will be using the talking points, but we don't have to be strict about it
- [ ] Does anyone want to share their screen? We can do that now, and I can show you how that works
- [ ] We'll be streaming to YouTube.
- [ ] You'll be able to see comments, but if you have links, I have to paste it into the private chat
- [ ] You can also use the private chat if you need to say something, but you can also just say it out loud
- [ ] Afterwards, we'll say goodbye to the stream, but please stay on past that
- [ ] Just in case I disconnect... stall for a minute and I'll be right back.
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